G23 Prop Fell Off .....

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  • scottb7
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    Originally posted by Tallredrider View Post

    If there is a stronger shaft available, why in the $%*(** are they not using them?
    Jeez, be careful. You don't want to end up "bitter" like me.


    "I know if I bought a G, I would pay a little more money to know my shaft wont fall off in the middle of lake one day!"

    Maybe this will be an "option" in 2019. You can choose forged or not forged...Just kidding.


    I just want Nautique to come clean, be transparent, and provide decent updates on the matter. That's all...

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  • Infinity
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    Makes total sense if the shafts are not forged, I was not aware of that. Sounds like its not a "supplier issue" then, its what they are ordering from supplier. Perhaps supplier told them the shaft is rated for the torque that is put on them? Obviously not the case and this is happening WAY more than any of us are aware since only limited people post on this forum and no way Nautique is going to advertise the actual number of claims they get. Guess its cheaper for them to just warranty them rather than change the material used and why they are not changing tho considering its one of the more expensive boats, you would think they would be willing to spend the extra few hundred to have the shafts forged and eliminate the issue. I know if I bought a G, I would pay a little more money to know my shaft wont fall off in the middle of lake one day!

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  • Wayward
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    Originally posted by Tallredrider View Post

    If there is a stronger shaft available, why in the $%*(** are they not using them?
    I have no idea...... except for the cost. A forged driveshaft is probably 4x as expensive. It does seem odd that they wouldn’t have switched by now, but neither of my G’s had a forged shaft.

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  • Tallredrider
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    Originally posted by Wayward View Post

    I actually think it is just because they don't use forged shafts. I'm pretty sure Malibu uses forged shafts, and I know for sure that MC does (and has for 10+ years).

    There are tons of other boats out there running smaller shafts, with 16.5-18" props, and they aren't having issues.....
    If there is a stronger shaft available, why in the $%*(** are they not using them?

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  • aswartz18
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    My 2018 g23 with 47hrs sheared this weekend. Are folks contacting nautique directly?


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  • Wayward
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    Originally posted by Infinity View Post
    Perhaps with the trans ratio power and the 17" prop, its just too much torque for the size shaft on there now to adequately handle the power, and they need a thicker shaft. Telling people that that shafts are undersized, can create issues, so maybe its easier to stick to the bad supplier story at this point even tho it no longer makes any sense.
    I actually think it is just because they don't use forged shafts. I'm pretty sure Malibu uses forged shafts, and I know for sure that MC does (and has for 10+ years).

    There are tons of other boats out there running smaller shafts, with 16.5-18" props, and they aren't having issues.....

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  • NMNautique
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    Here I am one year later and shaft sheared off again. This is getting old not sure what to do or think anymore.

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  • greggmck
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    Originally posted by GMLIII View Post

    I thought you were running a 17 1/2 inch prop, could that size have added more stress on the shaft ?
    Yes, we were using the larger prop. But the moderate 1/2" increase in prop diameter does not increase the amount of shaft torque the engine produces. The maximum shaft torque is determined by the engine. The propeller shaft has to be designed to sustain the torque load of the engine regardless of the propeller installed otherwise the shaft would shear under heavy loading with any prop. At first I thought there might be some relationship of the failure with the new prop because of it being improperly balanced causing a rotational wobble loading and metal fatigue. But then four fellow surf competitors saw my post and messaged me that they too have had shaft failures on 2018 G23s with stock 17x17 props. One friend said he had three shafts shear in 8 months. So it looks like there is a problem with the quality of steel in some of these shafts.

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  • scottb7
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    Yeah, it is very strange that it seems primarily to be a Nautique thing. So this makes it every single year of the G23, 2013-2018.

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  • Tallredrider
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    Originally posted by greggmck View Post

    The shaft in my 2018 G23 with 88 hours sheared off yesterday. I was also told that there were manufacturing problems with the supplier. It sounds like this is the standard response but now I'm not so sure. Boat is in for repairs now.
    Uggh...It does seem to be happening less than it used to be, if that is any consolation.

    Has anyone answered why this seems to be a Nautique specific thing? I think I saw it once on The Malibu crew, but couldn't find it later. Have not seen it anywhere else. It isn't like Nauti has the most powerful engines in the world.

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  • GMLIII
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    Originally posted by greggmck View Post

    The shaft in my 2018 G23 with 88 hours sheared off yesterday. I was also told that there were manufacturing problems with the supplier. It sounds like this is the standard response but now I'm not so sure. Boat is in for repairs now.
    I thought you were running a 17 1/2 inch prop, could that size have added more stress on the shaft ?

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  • Infinity
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    Perhaps with the trans ratio power and the 17" prop, its just too much torque for the size shaft on there now to adequately handle the power, and they need a thicker shaft. Telling people that that shafts are undersized, can create issues, so maybe its easier to stick to the bad supplier story at this point even tho it no longer makes any sense.

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  • greggmck
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    Shaft on my 2018 G23 H6Di sheared yesterday while surfing. 88 hours on the boat. Some brief vibration then lost the prop. I hope Nautique gets to the bottom of this. I am a long time Nautique owner but this really concerns me now...

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  • greggmck
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    The shaft in my 2018 G23 with 88 hours sheared off yesterday. I was also told that there were manufacturing problems with the supplier. It sounds like this is the standard response but now I'm not so sure. Boat is in for repairs now.
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  • ericusn
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    Originally posted by GMLIII View Post

    So you had 2 bad shafts on same boat? Not good
    Yup, not surprising though if they are just replacing the broken part with the exact same part.

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