G23 Prop Fell Off .....

[cptotr]

Broke my prop shaft yesterday afternoon. It also took a big chunk of of the hull too. Pretty much ruined our evening and labor day weekend. I can't believe this is something you have to deal with after spending that kind of money on their "top of the line" boat. I've read the entire thread here and it doesn't seem like they've came up with a solution yet unless I'm missing something. I'd like to know what the percentage of the G's have this happen? I'm assuming it can't be a large amount, but from reading here it seems like plenty. Since it's been happening for basically the entire lifespan of the boat it's really upsetting that they won't fix the issue. Is it the fact that they just don't know how to fix it or they don't want to pay what it costs to do it? Is it that they'd rather spend their money on marketing and driving up the cost of the new models rather than R&D to take care of a major problem that has costed countless Nautique owners both time and money from having to tow the boat in and haul it to the dealer? Am I supposed to cringe every time I engage the throttle from now on for the rest of the time I own this boat wondering if this will be the time I'll be stranded again? This is absolutely absurd to me!! I can't believe Nautique would just sit back and continue to let this happen.


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[SoCal G-Man]

What lakes have the most g23s on them? I’m gonna go rent some scuba gear and get myself some props. Lol


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Mine is resting at @ 18-ft deep approximately 20-ft South of the center buoy coming out of the 5MPH zone in Thompson Bay at Lake Havasu. The problem with that lake is the 2-3 feet of trash along the bottom before you get to heavy stuff like a prop. Ugh!

[NWSurfer]

The 2018 Axis A24 and 2017-2018 25 LSVs all run 17” props and 2:1 transmissions too, and haven’t been known to shed props.

[SoCal G-Man]

SocalGman, preach brother, preach! It’s bad enough that the problems keeps reoccurring but it adds insult to injury that these poor owners have to wait weeks to get their boats back. Some live in states that summer is a very , very short season.


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Exactly! I am curious whether or not the new 2805(?) prop with the longer hub helps.

[Wake.BC]

What lakes have the most g23s on them? I’m gonna go rent some scuba gear and get myself some props. Lol


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[funkster]

SocalGman, preach brother, preach! It’s bad enough that the problems keeps reoccurring but it adds insult to injury that these poor owners have to wait weeks to get their boats back. Some live in states that summer is a very , very short season.


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[SoCal G-Man]

Great points SoCal...I agree....BUT...as far as Nautique's brand integrity.....to me...this is the biggest dent and biggest letdown since I have been a fan and owner of 4 Nautiques. My prop has not fallen off....but in a way it has....know what I mean?. To me, and I'm sure others will agree, this shaft breaking issue should NEVER have gone past the first summer of shafts breaking without a major change to the boat, engine, or shaft itself. Here we are SIX model years later and G boats are still snapping shafts???? (Mostly G23s) You have got to be kidding!! This is not like a nail in the tire of an AMG SL63.....That's for you SoCal.....lol

LOL! I do know what you mean. What is equally bad is that most of the dealers do not stock shafts - a known major defect that keeps customer boats off the water for 1-2 weeks. Let that sink-in for a bit...

Nautique should be offering dealers an additional 120+ day terms to on shafts and pushing dealers to stock them so customers can be back on the water ASAP. Most dealers with whom I have spoken have the props, but not the shafts due to the cost. $30-50k in profit on each boat and they don't want to spend money to stock shafts???

[FEVB]

Great points SoCal...I agree....BUT...as far as Nautique's brand integrity.....to me...this is the biggest dent and biggest letdown since I have been a fan and owner of 4 Nautiques. My prop has not fallen off....but in a way it has....know what I mean?. To me, and I'm sure others will agree, this shaft breaking issue should NEVER have gone past the first summer of shafts breaking without a major change to the boat, engine, or shaft itself. Here we are SIX model years later and G boats are still snapping shafts???? (Mostly G23s) You have got to be kidding!! This is not like a nail in the tire of an AMG SL63.....That's for you SoCal.....lol

Very well put

[Kenv]

Great points SoCal...I agree....BUT...as far as Nautique's brand integrity.....to me...this is the biggest dent and biggest letdown since I have been a fan and owner of 4 Nautiques. My prop has not fallen off....but in a way it has....know what I mean?. To me, and I'm sure others will agree, this shaft breaking issue should NEVER have gone past the first summer of shafts breaking without a major change to the boat, engine, or shaft itself. Here we are SIX model years later and G boats are still snapping shafts???? (Mostly G23s) You have got to be kidding!! This is not like a nail in the tire of an AMG SL63.....That's for you SoCal.....lol

[SoCal G-Man]

My interpretation is that Nautique has fallen into the behavior that often affects successful companies. They are building as many boats as possible and selling them all at increasing prices. The management team are focused more on maximizing profit at the expense of losing touch with the customer. Why else would we have systemic shaft failures that are not publicly addressed, a $9,000 stern thruster that should cost $3,000, and an expensive powered tower that must be purchased as standard equipment? I have owned 6 Nautiques over the years and love my G23. But as a dedicated customer I am very concerned where the brand is headed.

Great point! Losing brand integrity can be the kiss of death. Watching Nautique grow out of touch with their customers reminds me of brands like Tommy Hilfiger and Ralph Lauren. These brands did exactly what you are describing and their quality suffered, which led to a huge hit to their brand integrity... and consumers noticed! I was starting to feel what you described above, especially since my boat had even more issues Saturday after I picked it up from the dealer. (I had to take it right back the next day and leave it.)

However, Nautique did reach out to me. I don't know if it was from me tagging them in social media with my photos of my G23 being towed in for the 6th time in two seasons, or the post I made here. In all honesty, I have limited my public posts about the long list of problems in an attempt to resolve my issues amicably. I am praying for a success story with Nautique! I have purchased products and vehicles that are considered high-end brands over the years, and those brands have always stood behind their products at a level that is unmatched. Mercedes-Benz was incredible in how they handled a lemon vehicle for me. I have purchased four (4) MBZ vehicles as a result of their brand integrity. I hold the opinion that Nautique is such a brand. How they handle my boat will determine the validity of my opinion.

[MLA]

Yep, 2:1, 1.25" shaft and 17" wheel on some Tige models.

[Wake.BC]

Thank you infinity I was on my way to post the same thing. Wakemakers sucks for prop recommendations, acmes new sight is slightly better but you really gotta talk to the guys to find out what’s best.

I had no doubt in my mind that they’re running 17 inch. Ask me why? Because I own the model previous and I am just wishing I had to the 17”



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[Wayward]

Tige RZX2 and RZX3 boats have had the 2:1 since 2017 and run the 17" props. First runs had the 16" dia from factory, but since mid-2017,....they have 17" props. All the 2:1 boats have 1 1/4" shaft.
You are looking at Wakemakers for prop recommendations....who plays it safe and does not update things for a while (as mentioned)
Here is a thread on TigeOwners if you wanna see it and/or do some research. I demoed an RZX2 & 3 in late 2017 so I knew they had 2:1 and 17" props, but you seem to want a link to substantiate.....there are countless threads on TO about the 17" props for these models, I just pulled this one up on quick search so you could see for yourself. (elevated concept in this thread is a Tige dealer)
http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/show...26quot%3B+prop

Normally I could careless if you are right or wrong, but no reason to beat on your chest and talk down to people and act like you are the only one who knows anything when clearly, Nautique boats are what you keep up on, not so much other brands. I don't have a Nautique or a Tige, currently a Centurion owner....but I like to keep up with all the brands since I may end up in one of them down the road. Lot of great boats out there right now.

Good info, Infinity.

I just did a quick google search, and found that your info is easily verifiable. I also don’t often use wakemakers as a search engine. Google seems to work well, but apparently we aren’t “intelligent” enough, and need to switch to wakemakers for accurate answers to all of our questions.

[blueroom]

Good info. I saw that they went to a 2:! transmission, 1-1/4 shaft and increased the prop hub to boat bottom distance. Makes sense that they ended up swinging a bigger prop sometime in '17.

[Infinity]

You state your opinion as fact but without any substantiation. Tige does NOT use a 17" prop. See: https://www.wakemakers.com/tige-wake...oat-propellers
Click on any 2018 Tige. No 17" prop. Yea, dismiss it as outdated even though its for 2018 boats. You know better... If so please share a link to substantiate you information?

And since you know so much about this problem please enlighten us with your engineering analysis for why these shafts are failing?

I guess my mistake was thinking this might be an intelligent discussion.

Tige RZX2 and RZX3 boats have had the 2:1 since 2017 and run the 17" props. First runs had the 16" dia from factory, but since mid-2017,....they have 17" props. All the 2:1 boats have 1 1/4" shaft.
You are looking at Wakemakers for prop recommendations....who plays it safe and does not update things for a while (as mentioned)
Here is a thread on TigeOwners if you wanna see it and/or do some research. I demoed an RZX2 & 3 in late 2017 so I knew they had 2:1 and 17" props, but you seem to want a link to substantiate.....there are countless threads on TO about the 17" props for these models, I just pulled this one up on quick search so you could see for yourself. (elevated concept in this thread is a Tige dealer)
http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/show...26quot%3B+prop

Normally I could careless if you are right or wrong, but no reason to beat on your chest and talk down to people and act like you are the only one who knows anything when clearly, Nautique boats are what you keep up on, not so much other brands. I don't have a Nautique or a Tige, currently a Centurion owner....but I like to keep up with all the brands since I may end up in one of them down the road. Lot of great boats out there right now.