Repair for Dead Gauges on 2003-2006 Nautiques Caused by Bad Faria Gateway

[Sell]

I am resigned to the fact that my gateway is playing up. I have an 05 210 team. For the last couple of years the volt gauges (both analogue & digital) have read a steady 10 volts. Today I pulled her out of the shed for a wash & run on the hose & now the analogue oil pressure is reading a flat 0.
I have pulled the gateway & inspected internally, all is perfectly clean.
I've also tested both battery & accessory fed power supplies & they both are live.
Has anyone got any more suggestions?
If not has anyone got a pic of their dash after replacing the gauges? The link in this post is dead, so I am not sure if I was looking at the right part on Nautique parts - the set I found looked pretty ordinary to put it nicely...

[Beach-TJ]

Interesting. I'm learning new things. Mine is an 03 there are markings all over the boat saying it's the team edition, but it doesn't have center ballast and i'm pretty sure my paddle wheel doesn't plug into the gateway, but i'll need to investigate further.

Your paddle wheel should not plug into the gateway. The perfect pass, of this era, were not integrated into the boat, there an add on. The perfect pass is completely independent of the gauges and gateway. That's why the Ptubes are needed for the gateway to feed the speed to the speedometer.

[RosscoB]

the paddle wheel only fed the perfect pass, with the pitot tubes still handling the speedometer. once you go nautic laugic gps, you disconnect the paddle wheel and feed in the gps signal instead. this still leaves u relying on the tubes for the speedometer functionality ... if your 03 was a team edition with perfect pass, it should have had the same setup from factory.

Interesting. I'm learning new things. Mine is an 03 there are markings all over the boat saying it's the team edition, but it doesn't have center ballast and i'm pretty sure my paddle wheel doesn't plug into the gateway, but i'll need to investigate further.

[obd666]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but if you already have the paddle wheel input, you wouldn't have the PTubes and shouldn't need this.

the paddle wheel only fed the perfect pass, with the pitot tubes still handling the speedometer. once you go nautic laugic gps, you disconnect the paddle wheel and feed in the gps signal instead. this still leaves u relying on the tubes for the speedometer functionality ... if your 03 was a team edition with perfect pass, it should have had the same setup from factory.

[RosscoB]

As a side note to this ... if you progress to working with them further, inquire about how he can integrate this with his existing nautic laugic gps paddle wheel replacement. Many of us already have that setup in place, and are not willing to buy another gps puck to feed the speedometer. I'm guessing that accounts for much of the price per he quoted you.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but if you already have the paddle wheel input, you wouldn't have the PTubes and shouldn't need this.

[obd666]

I have spoken to the people at Nautic Laugic. They have told me they would be willing to build a device that fits between the Gateway and the Gauges so the PTubes can be disconnected and GPS Speed can be displayed on the speedometer.

As a side note to this ... if you progress to working with them further, inquire about how he can integrate this with his existing nautic laugic gps paddle wheel replacement. Many of us already have that setup in place, and are not willing to buy another gps puck to feed the speedometer. I'm guessing that accounts for much of the price per he quoted you.

I had hoped we would make some progress with rebuilding the boards themselves. About a year ago SkiNautique2001 mentioned that he worked somewhere that may be able to rebuild them, but he needed a donor board. Maybe he will chime in, but i feel like that was a lost opportunity ...

[RosscoB]

I have spoken to the people at Nautic Laugic. They have told me they would be willing to build a device that fits between the Gateway and the Gauges so the PTubes can be disconnected and GPS Speed can be displayed on the speedometer. So, for those of us that would like to disconnect the PTubes and save our gateways but still get speed information on the dash there may be an option.

They wanted two things to make it happen: 1) 20 people willing to put a $125 deposit down. 2) A complete gateway and cluster to develop the product on. (donated or loaned)

His anticipated selling cost would be $260.

Feel free to PM me about this. If it looks like there is enough interest I will work on coordinating a group buy.

[RosscoB]

Just ordered 100 (min. order quantity) metric 2.90 x 1.78 O-rings in buna (better for freezing temperatures).

I'd be happy to buy some of those from you if they work.


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[Triumph]

Just ordered 100 (min. order quantity) metric 2.90 x 1.78 O-rings in buna (better for freezing temperatures). July 21, 2017: I just tested these and found that my starboard transducer was sealed and gave me a speedometer reading, but the port leaked badly. I just ordered 25 metric 2.80 x 1.60 O-rings. I've disconnected and plugged the pitot tubes so that I can use the boat without a speedometer until theses arrive. I still need a speedometer since the PerfectPass is NOT accurate much above 28 mph (max. calibration speed).

[Triumph]

There is a tiny o-ring that dries out and creates the leak. The o-ring is between the pressure transducer and the brass fitting. The brass fitting comes off of the transducer very easily. The I.D. of the o-ring seals on the O.D. of the transducer. The O.D. of the o-ring seals on the I.D. of the fitting. The transducer O.D. is 0.117". The fitting I.D. is 0.223" and 0.089 deep (There is actually more axial gap available since the face of the fitting does not meet the face of the transducer). I have tried to calculate the correct replacement o-ring, but come up with too thick of an o-ring using 30% compression. I will need to contact an o-ring manufacturer to get their advice on the compression. I'll post the o-ring size when I figure it out unless somebody else already knows it or how to calculate it.

[RosscoB]

Would the fact that the my gauges won't illuminate at night with any of the lights be indicative of a bad gateway, or just a bad connection to the lights? I would love to know if there is an easy way to trouble shoot this.

[TBaganATX]

I know this is an old thread.

I'm a new member and recently bought an 06 SAN 226. I have the Faria guages. I have a few with minor cracks in the. Depth finder is intermittent. The check engine light was coming on twice this past weekend. I'm wondering if this is all related? I thought well maybe just replacing all the guages, but it doesn't sound as easy as I thought. Any suggestions?



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[northofnine]

Kmayotte....since there was no evidence of water inside, I think I will leave the speedo tubes attached!

[Kmayotte]

Northofnine- Nice!! That's awesome and you're lucky. Are you planning on disconnecting the speedo tubes?

I can say the inside of my gateway box DID NOT look like that...corrosion everywhere. Clearly it had been a problem for a while before everything died. I'm hoping to get to the gauge replacement project this weekend.

[northofnine]

Thought I would add this in this thread....I had similar issues over the past couple of seasons...started in 2014. No failures in 2015...total gauge failure this summer...

Okay folks, here is my update.
Took the gateway apart. Very easy to do. Found no corrosion or evidence of water.
Put it back together and sealed with marine silicone.
Used a Electronics contact cleaner on all connections.
Happy to say all gauges are back working. Ran the boat about 4 hours over the past week...all okay...