G23 Prop Fell Off .....

[Skidave]

I always offer cash for gas, but my friends never accept. I do the same when they offer. But for my barefoot crew, I always bring cold brew coffes for the owner. Just a quick thanks for using your boat and a good morning boost!

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[bturner]

Boating etiquette varies by situation I would suspect. I never ask for money, I won't take money nor do I offer to pay for gas from out tight group. That said, we seem to be always going from one boat to another throughout the summer and I think things pretty much get evened out. That and in my case I do free upgrades/repairs where I can, winterize everyone's boat and do the occasional rebuild (see my other posts on the trailer refresh for the BIL a couple weeks back). That doesn't stop me from bringing over a case of beer, a pitcher of mules or subs in a cooler from time to time. I think if you're in a tight group most hosts would prefer the unexpected offering, at least I do. Money is cool but most people with boats like these are pretty set there.

Went yesterday and didn't pay a thing. Then again being on a boat the third weekend in August in Michigan, the conversation came up about winterizing the boat and fixing the trailer that we've put off since April (we agreed to get started on the trailer next weekend). With the PITA getting service scheduled and the cost to winterize a surf boat these days, I think most would be happy with this arrangement.

[Scooter G]

Thanks for the love & support!
Fortunately, we have a large network of friends that opened up their wallets for Covid boats. We pretty much have our choice of brands across the spectrum. Never shredded a wave from the Axis, excited to do some comparisons (and report back).

Here's our etiquette dilemma, do we offer to pay for gas, or just sponge like everyone does with us, I would hate to disrupt the food chain, haha.

For the Sherlock Holmes theory that has been running through my head, thinking out loud. If the dealer in Prosser Washington (not to mention any names) did a warranty shaft replacement @ 275 hours with no problems. Which by the way, neither I nor the previous owner requested this to be done, just showed up as a warranty line item on the receipt. And the new replaced shaft breaks @ 25 hours in, does something feel a little off here..? I thought the replacement shafts were pretty bullet proof. It just seems odd, almost like someone's boat got a new shaft, but it wasn't mine. There were a few other oddities, but I'll stop there.

[bturner]

Dang son that's nuts. I remember hearing about this years ago but figured everyone was over it. Sounds like your season may be cut a bit short with this one. Good luck getting back on the water.

[Kenv]

Wow....thread brought back from the dead. Post just above you was a 16' also. I know it went into the 2018's as well...as I had a friend throw one on his 2018 G23. Your location is classic.....now THAT is funny. LOL

[Scooter G]

45 pages in, probably don't need to start a new thread here.
300 hours in on a '16 G23.
Had just dumped a surfer in the water. My wife said she was feeling/hearing a vibration, more of a sound thing about an hour earlier.

Will be some interesting conversations come Monday. I have a service receipt that the dealer in Washington indicated that they had replaced the shaft under warranty in March of this year when we picked the "new to us" boat up from them, along with the underwater lights. Called our local dealer about closing time yesterday, said they were about 3 to 4 weeks out. Sounds like a good time to catch up with some friends and hitch some rides...



Funny part of the story - We got towed in by some small beat up circa 70's in/out, and nobody thunk to dump the full bags until we got back to the dock. I kept thinking, man, he isn't going to get us there. Could of made his life so much easier, lol.

[chitty71]

You can add me as another G23 owner that has the prop shaft failure. 2016 and only 190 hours on it. Bought it two months ago and the dealer thought that it was already upgraded. I’m guessing not if it failed. Like most, we were out wakeboarding, when we finished, I selected the back to dock function. About 3/4 of the way home noticed a slight vibration that got worse. Slowed the boat down and it went away. Took back off and bam, engine rpms to the moon after a loud bang. I’m hoping the new shaft is the fix as I went through all 45 pages and came up with not much of real answer if it’s truly the fix. Lucky for us we still have our trusty and true 99 Air Nautique so we aren’t without a boat.

[GMLIII]

Now go join SeaTow if you are not a member . They towed my G 23 on a prop shaft breakage failure and an electrical failure . Worth every penny .

[Daveed]

I think that you need to go buy a lottery ticket, right now. You bent two shafts, but didn't have the prop fall off either time, that is very unusual. It is more unusual since at least one of the boats was well beyond the supposed fix. As noted, this thread basically died when they finally did find the fix.

I think I've used all my luck up for a while, so the lottery ticket would be money thrown away.

The dealer did tell me that the shaft was cracked (and not merely bent) when I dropped off the boat, so you are correct, I did get very lucky.

Of note, I took the boat out this weekend with the new shaft and she ran considerably smoother than in recent outings. I had in my head that the shaft went from good to bad in a nanosecond, while it appears that it was a slow burn.

[Tallredrider]

I made a new post and have since been directed here. I'll add to this thread in case there's a need to continue tracking this issue. Sorry to pick the scab on what may be a healing wound...

2018 G23 H6

Bent prop shaft in July of 2018, less than 50 hours

Bent prop shaft in July of 2021, 187 hours

In both instances, we were cruising at 25 mph, ballasts empty, across moderately rough water at least 100 feet deep. In both occurrences, I felt a slight shudder that began to intensify and I immediately cut power. I guess I should feel fortunate that I was able to throttle back before the shaft sheared, so at least I was able to limp back to the dock.

After dropping the boat off at the dealer in 2018 I was told the bent shaft was a "known issue", which I assumed meant that the "known issue" had been addressed and was no longer a concern. I see now that really meant "we know about the problem and will replace a defective shaft with another defective shaft. Fingers crossed!".

That may be an unfair characterization, but I do take my boat in for service every 50 hours (usually sooner); a visual inspection of the shaft would take 30 seconds (after reading through this thread for a few days I know that the tell-tale sign of the defective shafts is that the keyway is cut all the way to the shaft strut). I'm particularly bothered as to how or why the replacement shaft, which was also defective, wasn't later replaced with a non-defective shaft once it was available. Seems like basic preventative maintenance to me and PR preservation.

Definitely, it’s frustrating to experience a failure when my family has invested a lot of effort to travel away from home base. Twice. Yes, it’s frustrating that a "known issue" in 2018 is still affecting my ability to use my boat in 2021.

I'm guessing that this is no longer a problem due to the lack of new posts to this thread? But I’m due to take delivery of a 2022 G23 in early August and I’m trying to find some reassurance that this "known issue" is now a "non-issue". I'm also here to ask for a reality check (if needed) as to what my expectations of my dealer should be regarding their handling of this affair, meaning is it realistic of me to presume the dealer would be on the look out for a defective item, especially one that they installed, and preemptively replace it during the course of servicing my boat?

My prop shaft at the point where the bend occurred, and the exposed keyway.

I think that you need to go buy a lottery ticket, right now. You bent two shafts, but didn't have the prop fall off either time, that is very unusual. It is more unusual since at least one of the boats was well beyond the supposed fix. As noted, this thread basically died when they finally did find the fix.

[Daveed]

Update for those that may be concerned about the shaft on their G:

From my dealer: "Good news on the shaft it had a hairline crack so that is [a] warranty [replacement]. Nautique has changed the "Cause" to torque specs basically, so this shaft we just put in should be good." (I'm not sure what that last bit means)

Fingers crossed!

As a precaution, my recommendation would be to ask your dealer to insect your shaft (get your minds out of the gutter) for defects when you have your G in for service.

[greggmck]

My understanding is 2018 was the last year that had the bad shafts.

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[scottb7]

Wasn't 2019 the last year they fell off? or was it 2018 models?

[NautiqueJeff]

This was only an issue on the G-series boats.

[aromeo]

and this is only on G boats? Have we seen it across any other Nautique models?