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  • ffmedic74
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jul 2003
    • 835

    • Lexington, KY


    #16
    Grant,

    Where are you getting most of your LEDs from these days?

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    • Grant_West
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Jul 2003
      • 758

      • Redwoodcity Ca


      #17
      I got the LEDs for this project from Mike Ski here on PN.com
      e-mail hime if you want some stuff he is about to make a order to China

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      • dan1166
        • Apr 2005
        • 92



        #18
        Led Platform

        This is a really cool idea, but I have one question. If you are supplying power to the led's through the platform brackets, how do you keep this from shorting out? Brackets are always submerged in the water, and we all know that water is a great conductor of electricity. I do not understand how this could be. It must have some drain on the electrical system, or am I missing something.

        Dan, the STS Man[/list]

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        • surroundsound64
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Jul 2005
          • 2147

          • Longview, TX

          • 2018 230 1981 Ski Nautique

          #19
          RE: Led Platform

          It probably does have somewhat of a drain, but the resistance of the wire that connects the 2 brackets with all the LEDs in between is probably a lot less resistance than the distance of water between the 2. There is no doubt some drain though.

          The same thing happens when you back your trailer into the water if you leave your lights connected, unless you have waterproof light covers. The lights still work.
          2018 SAN 230
          1981 Ski Nautique
          Sold - 2011 Sport 200V
          Sold - 2000 SAN

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          • Andrew
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Aug 2005
            • 891

            • Tuscaloosa, AL


            #20
            RE: Led Platform

            fresh water sucks as a conductor to be honest.......

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            • Grant_West
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Jul 2003
              • 758

              • Redwoodcity Ca


              #21
              Yea I dont know how it dosent do what you think its gonna do (Shock Ya) but it dosent it works just fine. Its cool to see all these people come outa the wood work and discuss how it will / will not work and the drain and the eletrolisis ect. Pretty funny

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              • surroundsound64
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Jul 2005
                • 2147

                • Longview, TX

                • 2018 230 1981 Ski Nautique

                #22
                Oh ya... AWESOME job Grant!
                2018 SAN 230
                1981 Ski Nautique
                Sold - 2011 Sport 200V
                Sold - 2000 SAN

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                • Andrew
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 891

                  • Tuscaloosa, AL


                  #23
                  Originally posted by surroundsound64
                  Oh ya... AWESOME job Grant!
                  almost forgot........ DITTO^

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                  • 82tique
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 156

                    • Butterville, Land-O-Lakes


                    #24
                    Originally posted by Hollywood
                    So...what's next to get some lights?
                    how about a few sets of 'zillion watt' lights wrapped in an aero-dynamic box ......sweet, I can picture it now......blind your freinds and REALLY light up the water for night riding

                    much respect bling
                    Life is Good.

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                    • ag4ever
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 1180



                      #25
                      Low voltage, and water is actually a poor conductor. Distilled water is a really bad conductor, but the more minerals that are in the water the better it becomes. If you drop a 120 volt a/c curent line in the water, you will get current, if you drop a 12 volt dc line in the water, there will be very little vlotage. especially if the conductors are spaced as wide as the two platform brackets. I assume Grant is using on bracket for + and the other for -.

                      Now the problem would be if you had the boat in the water for extended periods of time. You just created a device to speed up electrolisys. (I think that is how it is spelled). The metal will try to leave one polarity and go to the other. That is how electroplating works.

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                      • surroundsound64
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 2147

                        • Longview, TX

                        • 2018 230 1981 Ski Nautique

                        #26
                        Originally posted by ag4ever

                        Now the problem would be if you had the boat in the water for extended periods of time. You just created a device to speed up electrolisys. (I think that is how it is spelled). The metal will try to leave one polarity and go to the other. That is how electroplating works.
                        Ya might come out with some cooling looking brackets though! Yellow_Flash_Colorz:
                        2018 SAN 230
                        1981 Ski Nautique
                        Sold - 2011 Sport 200V
                        Sold - 2000 SAN

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                        • boatech
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 247



                          #27
                          man thats some fine work you did thanx for showing it off.

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                          • richard
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 406

                            • HK


                            #28
                            LED swim platform

                            if LED factory make 3V led lights (it's easy for them) and we convert 12V to 3V to supply the leds will much improve electrolysis problem since the led orginaly worked with not 12v but about 3v

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                            • ag4ever
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 1180



                              #29
                              RE: LED swim platform

                              For the short period that most of us have our boat in the water electrolysis should not be a problem.

                              But if you put the boat in saltwater, turn the LEDs on, and leave it there for a day, you will be suprised at what you see when you pull it from the water.

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                              • Grant_West
                                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 758

                                • Redwoodcity Ca


                                #30
                                Any type of electrolysis would only take place only while the power to the platform is on. So in a real life senario how long do you have your LED's on each night? 1-2 hr's and how much electrolysis happens over that time. I would like to see a picture of this electrolysis that everyone keep's talking about for LED swim platform's.

                                People are saying well in fresh water its not a problem but in salt water the effect's are alot more. I say if you run your boat in salt water that last thing I would be worried about is electrolysis from a LED swim platform. I would think the effect's of salt water would far out weigh if any effects from a LED platform, But thats Just my opinion.The whole electrolysis LED platform debate does make good internet conversation, so please continue. :grin:

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