Standard Ballast 2015 Super Air 230 issues with wake surfing

[Markj19red]

having a tough time dialing in the settings for a decent wake to surf. Can certainly create a high wake, but trying to extend it back a bit is difficult. The wake just doesn't seem to have enough "push" behind it to keep the "sweet spot."

any and all suggestions are appreciated.

[vacooley]

What speed, very and ballast are you running.


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[Markj19red]

Right around 10-11

[Markj19red]

Full ballast and about 200lbs of extra weight near back tanks

[markj]

We're in the same boat. Pun intended. Even with the pro ballast, that boat needs significant additional weight. No getting around it. There are a couple of different threads on PN that discuss the merits of doing it this way or that. Pretty much any 23' boat is gonna need at least 3500 lbs minimum unless it's already a heavy tank like a G or you have a large group with you. Of course that's just my opinion. There are plenty of others out there.

[markj]

Here is what you can expect with a properly weighted 2014-2017 230. This is a friend of mine who is 6'-2" and was just learning to wake surf 2 days ago.

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[Markj19red]

What speed ? How were u weighted ? NSS ramp ? Vertical plate ?

[markj]

I go slower than most people at around 8.5-9 mph. NSS @ 0. I pull that gate thingy back all the way for more wake height. As for weight, I normally have my stock setup of 400 lbs of leadwake bags and the 3350 lbs of water ballast (custom sacks from wakemakers) that is all controlled from the dash as well as 6-7 people. We only had 3 people in the boat in these 2 pics so I threw a sack in the cabin this time to make up for it and experiment with it. PM me if you want more explicit details or pics of the setup.

[Jeff88]

What speed ? How were u weighted ? NSS ramp ? Vertical plate ?

Swap the stock 400lb bags for 750s in the back. Reinforce the engine dividers so they don't bend. Throw a couple hundred lbs of lead around the boat. Wake Plate all the way back. Speed 10.8-11.2. NSS @ 3-4. I'm 6'3 and 230 lbs. Zero issues with push.


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[moczygemba9395]

I will echo what Jeff said but I run a slightly different set up. We have 850 custom sacs on top of the factory hard tanks, and we have 700 pounds of lead evenly split toward the rear of the boat. We fill up the rear ballast all the way, and fill the factory front ballast up to only 3/4 full. Keep NSS at 0 and keep the wake shaper all the way forward. For speed if you're a beginner run at 10.8 to 11, for the more advanced 11.3 to 11.5.

You do need to reinforce the engine dividers and add two extra pins in the wall track at the rear so it doesn't pop up.


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[SupraFly]

I go slower than most people at around 8.5-9 mph. NSS @ 0. I pull that gate thingy back all the way for more wake height. As for weight, I normally have my stock setup of 400 lbs of leadwake bags and the 3350 lbs of water ballast (custom sacks from wakemakers) that is all controlled from the dash as well as 6-7 people. We only had 3 people in the boat in these 2 pics so I threw a sack in the cabin this time to make up for it and experiment with it. PM me if you want more explicit details or pics of the setup.

I'm not quite following this.

Are you saying that you just have larger "pro-ballast" bags? Maybe the 750s that seem to be so popular.

Or do you have bags in other places too? If so, did you have a dealer plumb in those bags for you?


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[moczygemba9395]

Here is a picture of our wave...




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[cedarcreek216]

I was driving a friends 2015 230 this weekend and immediately went to my normal 210 setup and realize that boat wanted something completely different. He has standard pro ballast and I found it liked a little surf side biased weight, maybe 60-40, and hydrogate forward and slow, 10.2 mph.


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[markj]

I'm not quite following this.

Are you saying that you just have larger "pro-ballast" bags? Maybe the 750s that seem to be so popular.

Or do you have bags in other places too? If so, did you have a dealer plumb in those bags for you?


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Yes and no. I do have larger pro ballast bags that I swapped out, but I custom ordered them from wakemakers. According to the wakemakers drawing they're 890+ pounds each, but they're more like 825ish in reality. I also have another PNP bag in the front which is 300 lbs. All controlled from the dash. Mackin surf wake from the dash. Makes a 230 look a lot better after pricing a G plus it's a way better looking boat IMO. Plumbed it all myself and I'm no plumber. Haha! Honestly, if you are even remotely handy, it's easy. No fancy tools required.