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    I asked my dealer to verify that the SBT Trailer that came with my boat had the capacity to carry it... Apparently, they are bad at math!
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  • #2
    I didnít know that was you on Facebook at Nautique Owners . Anyway I think this trailer is fine for a G23 with fuel and gear

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    • #3
      The SBT trailer is rated at 8,000-lbs max. This was an issue that concerned me when I bought it. When I asked, my dealer assured me that I was good based on the same weight numbers everyone . However, I just added 300-lbs of lead, and thought I would check since I was driving by the scale today... much to my surprise, it is over even without the lead. This explains why my bearings are always warmer on this trailer than previous ones. I actually called SBT last season and the owner also assured me that his trailer is fine. Definitely a concern since I trailer everywhere.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SoCal G-Man View Post
        The SBT trailer is rated at 8,000-lbs max. This was an issue that concerned me when I bought it. When I asked, my dealer assured me that I was good based on the same weight numbers everyone . However, I just added 300-lbs of lead, and thought I would check since I was driving by the scale today... much to my surprise, it is over even without the lead. This explains why my bearings are always warmer on this trailer than previous ones. I actually called SBT last season and the owner also assured me that his trailer is fine. Definitely a concern since I trailer everywhere.
        Still at 9,200 lbs or whatever your weighed in at today on the scales seems crazy high IMHO
        Last edited by GMLIII; 6 days ago.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GMLIII View Post

          Still at 9,200 lbs or whatever you weighed in at today on the scales seems crazy high IMHO
          I thought so too, but combined was 15,260. That puts my Yukon XL at 6,040, which is accurate given fluids, hitch and gear. My previous boat weighed more than advertised, but not by much. Also, the old trailer was rated much higher, so it was not a safety issue.

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          • #6
            Your weight includes the trailer which would be about 1500lbs for a tandem, so actual boat is below 8000.
            Guessing that trailer rating does not include the weight of the trailer and why they call it good? Tho I realize that each axle being rated at 4000 would have to be good enough for both combined and regardless, I agree that I would want my trailer to be rated well above what I am hauling to be on the safe side.
            Was just throwing out an idea on why they likely think its good to go as-is.

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            • #7
              Gvwr ( gross vehicle weight rating ) is total trailer weight, that's trailer plus load. So your 1,200 lbs over that trailers max rating. (8000 - 9200 = 1200 over )

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              • #8
                While your bearings and axles will give you problems, I would check if your overloading the tires. If so there prone to blowing.

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                • #9
                  Send the weight slip to both the dealer and boat trailer manufacturer. Ask them again if the trailer with boat is operating within the safety limits of the trailer and ask them to put it in writing if they believe that it is.

                  Something about putting it in writing generally gets their attention and if they say yes you have something to stand on in the event of a failure. If the weights are correct I would bet they will give you more than lip service and address the issue. As Infinity states, check the ratings on the tires and even the bearings themselves.

                  I would personally be uncomfortable in your situation. Big boats need big trailers. Not a G guy by any means but don't G23's normally come with triple axle trailers?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Beach-TJ View Post
                    While your bearings and axles will give you problems, I would check if your overloading the tires. If so there prone to blowing.
                    They are definitely overloaded. 5-Lug Wheels = 2,200-lbs each. Tires = 2,271-lbs each.

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                    • #11
                      This entire process has been sobering! I have learned that the dry weights provided by the manufacturers (Boat and Trailer) are estimates and do not include options and equipment. Whether it is 5.3-lbs of vinyl added for a graphic on each side and the 67-lbs added by the cooler full of water drinks and ice in the G23 floor, or the spare tire carrier and step ladder on the trailer, these are not considered. Upon perusing my G23 owners manual, I found the disclaimer (section 2-1) about this.

                      I have also learned that most of us carry 300-400-lbs of gear to and from the water in our boats. (NOT INCLUDING BALLAST LEAD!) From anchors and coolers, to boards and life jackets. I initially weighed a few items. However, I weighed everything that I take to my local lake for a 1-day trip for a family of 5, and it was 312-lbs. No tubes, no extra boards or jackets for guests, etc.

                      My dealer - Sun Country Marine - realizes that they have a significant liability here, and the manager has reached out to the trailer manufacturer to get it resolved and get my trailer upfitted with 5K axles, and new wheels and tires. Hopefully, at minimal (if any) cost to me to swap it out.

                      I highly suggest that G23 or G25 owners weigh their boats and trailers loaded and full of fuel to make sure you are not over your limit.

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                      • #12
                        If i remember correctly dry weight refers to no fluids. So oil, v drive, transmission fluid as well as that full tank of gas are not included. Cooling fluid also for these new engines.
                        Gas is about 6 lbs per gallon.

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