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  • j2nh
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Dec 2003
    • 628

    • Spread Eagle Wisconsin


    #1

    Draining coolant from a closed loop 6.0

    Did a search and didn't find anything.
    What is the easiest way to drain the antifreeze (dexcool orange) from a ZR closed cooling system? I'd like to switch coolants, heard nothing good about Dexcool, so I'd like to get it all out.
    TIA
    2018 200 Team H6
    2009 196 Team ZR 409
    2005 196 Limited ZR 375
    2003 196 Limited Excalibur
    1999 196 Masters Edition
    1995 ProStar 190 LT1 (Bayliner)
    1987 ProStar 190
  • john_keck
    • Jun 2010
    • 51

    • NC

    • 2006 220 SANTE

    #2
    Hmmmm, not sure about the easiest way - I had to pull the starter off to get to the lower drain point on my 2006 ZR6. It was doable but difficult given the amount of space.

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    • agarabaghi
      • Aug 2013
      • 31

      • Maitland, FL


      #3
      PCM manual has instruction on how to drain a zr450 does that help?

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      • j2nh
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Dec 2003
        • 628

        • Spread Eagle Wisconsin


        #4
        I will check the PCM manual and see where that leads.

        Thanks john_keck and agarabaghi. Here's hoping I don't have to pull the starter.
        2018 200 Team H6
        2009 196 Team ZR 409
        2005 196 Limited ZR 375
        2003 196 Limited Excalibur
        1999 196 Masters Edition
        1995 ProStar 190 LT1 (Bayliner)
        1987 ProStar 190

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        • jkallen21
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Jan 2013
          • 400

          • United States

          • 2006 Super Air 220

          #5
          FWIW - I have a closed loop 2006 ZR6 and have never had a cooling issue.

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          • j2nh
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Dec 2003
            • 628

            • Spread Eagle Wisconsin


            #6
            Originally posted by jkallen21 View Post
            FWIW - I have a closed loop 2006 ZR6 and have never had a cooling issue.
            Neither have I but new coolant after 5 years is good preventive maintenance. I would like to switch from DexCool as I have not heard good things about it.
            2018 200 Team H6
            2009 196 Team ZR 409
            2005 196 Limited ZR 375
            2003 196 Limited Excalibur
            1999 196 Masters Edition
            1995 ProStar 190 LT1 (Bayliner)
            1987 ProStar 190

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            • d_nodixon
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Sep 2008
              • 475

              • Hammond, LA

              • 2013 SAN 230

              #7
              What bad things have you heard? Changed mine a while back, bout to change it again. Don't recall the steps, but it was not hard to do. The pcm manual was my guide. Be sure to check the anode and inspect the heat exchanger.

              2013 SAN 230
              2006 SSN 210 (SOLD)

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              • j2nh
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Dec 2003
                • 628

                • Spread Eagle Wisconsin


                #8
                From a 2008 class action lawsuit:

                "The lawsuits were filed on behalf of owners of General Motors vehicles, which were factory-filled with "Dex-Cool" coolant. In summary, the lawsuits alleged that Dex-Cool degraded certain vehicles’ intake manifold gaskets and other engine sealability components, and that in certain other vehicles, Dex-Cool formed a rusty sludge, clogging the vehicles’ cooling systems and causing vehicles to overheat."
                2018 200 Team H6
                2009 196 Team ZR 409
                2005 196 Limited ZR 375
                2003 196 Limited Excalibur
                1999 196 Masters Edition
                1995 ProStar 190 LT1 (Bayliner)
                1987 ProStar 190

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                • ericchile
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 283

                  • Utah!

                  • 2009 SANTE 230

                  #9
                  I posted the same question last year when I changed mine.
                  http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/fo.../27843-dexcool

                  After some research I believe I remember figuring out that two things have occurred. The dexcool in it's original formula had problems with the head gaskets that GM was putting in their motors.

                  1) I believe the formula has changed after determining the problem.
                  2) Also PCM said that their head gaskets are not affected. That is was combination of the original dexcool and certain head gaskets.

                  It has been a while but I used this brand
                  http://www.amazon.com/Zerex-ZXEL1-DE...ywords=dexcool

                  My Nautique dealer said they are using dexcool still as well. Please confirm everything though!
                  Last edited by ericchile; 05-25-2015, 09:19 PM.

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                  • jhersey29
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 330

                    • Colorado

                    • 1971 Correct Craft Mustang 1988 Ski Nautique 1992 Ski Nautique 1999 Ski Nautique

                    #10
                    From PCM website on the FAQ page : "For Model Year 2020 and newer, use Propelene Glycol (green in color). For previous years use DEX-COOL (pink/orange in color). I have ordered a new ZR409 to replace my GT40 and get ZO, etc. I imagine the engine will show up without AntiFreeze but not sure. Since it's a new motor would it be a 2021 or does it fall under the older motors since the 6.0 is actually an older engine? Does seem like green is the safest way to go.

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                    • ESP
                      • Feb 2021
                      • 25

                      • Regina Saskatchewan Cananda

                      • 2020 GS22

                      #11
                      Easiest way to change with out making a mess get 6 ft 5/8 heater hose run the hose through the drain under the boat, pinch the heater line from the motor turn off the tap remove hose, install heater hose run through the floor have someone manage the tap run into antifreeze containers, zero mess.

                      2020’s run poly propylene glycol it is green yellow and if you have leaks goes neon under black light.

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