Are they done? Are they getting a major overhaul? Hopefully the radio silence is akin to what happened with the G21 refresh -- the G23/G25 were shown off with no mention of the G21 and then it came out later. The links to "Design your 210/230" are borked.
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Originally posted by uwhusky View PostI also heard they are being replaced. What does that do to the value of a 210 after the fact? My guess is very little. They should hold just fine. Anyone else disagree?
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Our local dealer confirmed the discontinuation and said they were revamping the GS line for 210/220/230 buyers to move into. Not super happy but maybe Nautique will surprise us. I agree that forcing everyone into surf ships sounds bad... Especially when considering I would need a new lift and tow vehicle to own one.
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Originally posted by Cadesun View PostOur local dealer confirmed the discontinuation and said they were revamping the GS line for 210/220/230 buyers to move into. Not super happy but maybe Nautique will surprise us. I agree that forcing everyone into surf ships sounds bad... Especially when considering I would need a new lift and tow vehicle to own one.
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Originally posted by markj View Post
The problem with that is it will significantly raise the price of admission into the Nautique brand and alienate a lot of buyers.
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Originally posted by Tchur1 View Post
From a business perspective I would argue the opposite. Nautique is selling more boats than they can make right now and the 210 and 230 are probably the least popular boats they make and sell right now. Price point clearly isn’t an issue with new boats as paragons Gs and GS are all selling out build slots. We may not like it as consumers but as a business it probably makes sense for nautique to eliminate the 210 and 230 and revamp the GS
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I’ve stopped keeping track and keeping up with all the new modes about 3 yrs ago. The exponential increase in price has turned the wake market from core riders to luxury boats. A 2021 G21 is 165k. I can’t even get a G21 down my launch ramp . I demoed a GS22 and the performance drop for wake and surf for the size and price upgrade didn’t get it done for me.
The amount of Paragons and regular G 23-25’s my dealer has sold is a bit scary to me. We don’t have very many huge bodies of water around , but those beasts are sitting on small lakes. I love wake and surf as much as next guy , but those wakes are next level and a majority of their owners ( at least by me that I have experienced ) , have more money than brains. They’re gonna have us with more rules and regs faster than Biden hands out free cash. There is a reason the PWT is nothing what it used to be. The core rider aspect has disappeared and just about every MFG would rather sell 1 G23 paragon style bot then 3 210’s. I get it from the business standpoint , but at some point that bubble is going to burst.
Honestly I’ve spent time in the revamp bu 22lsv and 22MKZ . If the market wasn’t so nuts right now I could see myself in either of those.
Last edited by swatguy; 06-06-2021, 03:23 PM.
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Swatguy, I agree with you. I started wakeboarding in 2007 and always dreamed of owning a new nautique. I still wakeboard 99% of the time and mess around on the skis sometimes and maybe one surf set a year. Sadly, I just cant see the justification to spend the money on a new nautique. Until 2012/2013 when the first G was released I dont think there were any?? wakeboats over the 100k threshold. Fast forward 10 years and there are almost none under that same threshold. Thank you wakesurfing, hahaha. End of rant.
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