1,450 Pounds More Ballast in 2022 G23 & G25!

[astilley]

Hi guys with the 21’ G - FATsac have a replacement factory bag for 21 model G25/23 - it’s priced as a custom bag and isn’t listed on there site - you just swap them out for the factory ones- I had ordered these for my 22’G but cancelled the order on Sat morning when the Nautique 22’ model updates came thru
they are 1450’s - so basically the same as the new supplement but are just larger bags an will run off 1 pump - looks like the 22 will have additional bags and hopefully pumps also to speed up the fill/empty process
C1312 port C1313 StB are the product codes and are $325 each - ask for Ben - I had gone down this road knowing that the New G was under weighted and I have to travel to get to lake so lead isn’t an option for me
This new weight is pushing the G into P weight territory so I’m glad I have ordered with the ZZ8 and would expect more being optioned this way
I325

Do you know how the LINC screen will work showing the ballast levels and also the automatic fill/drain feature if you would have used the Fly High sacs?

[Johnny_Rock]

The 1450 is relative to the additional space in the underfloor cavity that is not filled by the factory 21 bags - this is probably relative to the reproduction deadline for the new G hull crossover from the P and they just used the P setup and there have been substantial complaints about the G being under ballasted - ultimately IMO this has ended up good for 22 boats and with this supplemental bags should come additional pumps and faster fills -

2021 G we tested was definitely under-ballasted. This means 2021 are duds.

[blufly]

The 1450 is relative to the additional space in the underfloor cavity that is not filled by the factory 21 bags - this is probably relative to the reproduction deadline for the new G hull crossover from the P and they just used the P setup and there have been substantial complaints about the G being under ballasted - ultimately IMO this has ended up good for 22 boats and with this supplemental bags should come additional pumps and faster fills -

[Skipdawg316]

Has anyone done the math to equate the 2021 with the 2022 including supplemental ballast?

In other words, is it 1400 pounds of lead for a 2021 to equal a 2022 or something different?

Heard a few scenarios of what works best in the 2021, so trying to understand why Nautique chose the supplemental ballast amount of 1450 pounds that they did…


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[MileHiGuy]

From what I understand, the new midship tanks will get additional pumps but have not seen anything in writing about this. Hopefully it is true to keep the fill times to a minimum.

[blufly]

Hi guys with the 21’ G - FATsac have a replacement factory bag for 21 model G25/23 - it’s priced as a custom bag and isn’t listed on there site - you just swap them out for the factory ones- I had ordered these for my 22’G but cancelled the order on Sat morning when the Nautique 22’ model updates came thru
they are 1450’s - so basically the same as the new supplement but are just larger bags an will run off 1 pump - looks like the 22 will have additional bags and hopefully pumps also to speed up the fill/empty process
C1312 port C1313 StB are the product codes and are $325 each - ask for Ben - I had gone down this road knowing that the New G was under weighted and I have to travel to get to lake so lead isn’t an option for me
This new weight is pushing the G into P weight territory so I’m glad I have ordered with the ZZ8 and would expect more being optioned this way
I325

[fsts2k]

IDK boys, unless you're on a Great Lake, the ocean or some really large body of water boats like this will have the goose that laid the golden eggs on a platter in short time. Worse yet they'll ruin it all for the rest of us. We have some really expensive medium sized inland lakes up here in Michigan with DBs that have way more money than sense. I can already see the mess these boats are going to make on the lakes. Put a couple of these monsters together with our increasingly crowded lakes and something not nice is bound to happen.

Hope I'm wrong but once you get to a certain mass things can and will go south quickly.

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[William_Zane]

My guess is the software could easily be updated. The bigger question is did they move the position of the older rear bags to fit the new supplemental bags? If there's already the space in the 21' hull then I'd imagine you could fish the new bags in there and plumb them in. We have 10 hours on our g25 and would love to add the new tanks as I doubt we will upgrade for awhile. Luckily we have the ZZ8 so we would have enough power if it's possible.

[astilley]

That's the first thing I asked my dealership and they weren't sure yet. I'm guessing since it's part of the new Linc Panoray screen, probably not. My next question is can you update the linc panoray on a '21

Do you think it would be as simple as a software update or would the entire touch screen need to be replaced? Please let us know what your dealer says.

[steakNshake]

Do you guys think the ballast will be able to be installed on the 2021 G23 and G25?

That's the first thing I asked my dealership and they weren't sure yet. I'm guessing since it's part of the new Linc Panoray screen, probably not. My next question is can you update the linc panoray on a '21

[bturner]

IDK boys, unless you're on a Great Lake, the ocean or some really large body of water boats like this will have the goose that laid the golden eggs on a platter in short time. Worse yet they'll ruin it all for the rest of us. We have some really expensive medium sized inland lakes up here in Michigan with DBs that have way more money than sense. I can already see the mess these boats are going to make on the lakes. Put a couple of these monsters together with our increasingly crowded lakes and something not nice is bound to happen.

Hope I'm wrong but once you get to a certain mass things can and will go south quickly.

[Clibka]

I already had the strapless racks, 2 pair of speakers, Bimini, and actuated tower on the build. So the upgrade was just from actuated to telescoping. And add the ballast. In other words ... we deleted all those original options then added the $22k and $3200 ... my guess is the telescoping is ~$8k ish?

[greggmck]

So we are trading in our 21 on a 22 ... we built our 22 from the 21 builder since the 22 wasn't available. Spoke to our dealer yesterday and asked what the additional ballast and telescoping tower would cost over the actuated tower. He said just under $10,000 for both ballast and telescoping tower upgrade.

That's a great price considering the tower list price is $22K and the ballast is $3.2K.

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[pitts12driver]

Well, as a 2021 owner with 25 hours on a really expensive boat, this is annoying...

[Clibka]

Add in the price of the optional ballast, tower, and ZZ8 and the price is probably in Paragon territory too...

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So we are trading in our 21 on a 22 ... we built our 22 from the 21 builder since the 22 wasn't available. Spoke to our dealer yesterday and asked what the additional ballast and telescoping tower would cost over the actuated tower. He said just under $10,000 for both ballast and telescoping tower upgrade.