Role of the 210/230

[pinneaplesurfer]

What is the current role of the SAN 210 and 230 in the Nautique lineup? It seems the G probably out performs the 210/230 in both wake and surf, while the GS line allows Nautique to be competitive at a lower price point.

[shag]

I know the many still prefer the look/lines of the 210/230. I thought the G would;d grow on me but I just can't get past how boxy they look. I know, more storage and room, but the 230 lines are just timeless, imo. I know the 230 still makes a awesome wave.

[scottb7]

210 and 230 way cleaner wake at lower speed, better handling. and 230 surfs very very good...so if you don't need super duper amounts of storage, don't need a dedicated wakeboard boat, or have kids that need lower speed boarding then 210/230 are FAR superior, and of course less expensive....

do they sell? i dunno

[DRDantzler]

I just purchased a 2020 230. I initially looked at the G21 and the G23. I like the look of the G's but I also like the look of the 230. I could have purchased used but wanted the peace of mind of having the 5-year warranty.

For me, it came down to price. I could have paid 30k more for a G21 or 60K more for a G23 but IMO the 230 does everything I need it to do and then some. I couldn't justify the price difference. I never looked into the GS series, I am not a big fan of how they look.

[greggmck]

It's simple. Old school vs. New school. You pick.

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[shag]

I know the many still prefer the look/lines of the 210/230. I thought the G would;d grow on me but I just can't get past how boxy they look. I know, more storage and room, but the 230 lines are just timeless, imo. I know the 230 still makes a awesome wave.

So were you able to get a new 2020 230 under 100K?

[scottb7]

The above post made me curious, so i peeked at onlyinboards and prices for 2017 and up 230's not much different then 2017 and up g23's. Like 120 to 150k....

Price on 210's much lower...80 to 130...

[nyryan2001]

We’re all just trying to pretend you just didn’t say used 230s cost 120-150k ^^^

[Wake.BC]

How does the surf wave compare to a G?


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[mooneywa]

To the OP's question: if you don't want to spend an extra $40k/50k for a G over a 230/210 but you still want a great wave, great quality/reliability, and a great cruising boat but are willing to lose some space, some fanciness, and some wake size - then the 230/210 is your jam. The GS gives you additional space and adds in ski/slalom as an activity but all with an added cost as well about 10-20k more than a 230. It kind of is the jack of all trades and with the upgraded hull the master of some.

I have owned both a 210 and now a 230. The 210 was my toe-dip into the wakeboat/lake world. We are a small family, have a dock so don't need a lot of space, and didn't want to spend mega dollars getting into the sport. After two years I loved it and wanted an upgrade. The G was just too much cost, both for the boat but also upgrading the dock.

[mooneywa]

How does the surf wave compare to a G?


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G vs 230: G is steeper, 230 is longer would be a general summary

[charlesml3]

How does the surf wave compare to a G?


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Yep, G surfs steeper, the 230 longer. I surf both boats regularly and this is always the case. I can't really say one surfs "better" than the other. It's just different. The 230 produces a long, clean wake with plenty of push. The G surfs steep. It turns into a matter of personal preference. Personally, I like surfing both of them. It's good to be able to switch from one boat to another. It makes you a better surfer.

-Charles

[scottb7]

Although I seldom surf. I would rather have a longer wave that has enough push...then steep.

[markj]

Definitely prefer the 230 surf wake over the G as well as the P. Especially for skim style.

[swatguy]

Little late to the party , but some people just prefer the classic lines of a simple pointy nose v drive. Towability is also a major factor. A 210 comes in at 4200lbs A 230 comes in at 4600. A G23 at 6000. A G21 5600lbs Those are some significant weight differences behind a tow vehicle .

as far as the GS series. It put that as more of a crossover type with the emphasis on the ski wake in a multi sport boat being the priority. Yes it surfs ok and yes it wakeboards ok , but it won’t beat a 210 or a 230 at either. It will beat them both as far as a ski wake tho. There is a reason the 210 and 230 have been around so long. Price point is price point. You just can’t beat what you get for the $ in my opinion , sure the deep wake tugs are great, but they’re just not a necessity to have a great time. While sure the wake behind a G is sick 90/95 percent of the wakeboarding populous doesn’t need a G wake to throw down their arsenal.

I personally think the GS series boats are priced above where they should be in the lineup. ( I won’t get into overall not pricing tho. That’s an entirely different topic). The performance/ price point combo you bet with the 210 /230 just won’t allow those boats to disappear. They’re just so multi sport friendly it makes them truly amazing .