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  • WakeSlayer
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Sep 2005
    • 2069

    • Silver Creek, MN

    • 1968 Mustang

    #31
    Johnboy,

    One other thing I neglected to mention is that you should cheat your toes way toe side. Tips of your toes about 1 to 1.5 inches from the wake edge. This applies more to larger boards than smaller trick style boards, and will give you much more edge power into the wave.
    the WakeSlayer
    1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
    1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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    • johnboyy7
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Oct 2009
      • 409

      • houston


      #32
      Originally posted by WakeSlayer View Post
      Johnboy

      Drop about 250 out of the rear bag, See if you can get a couple hundred lbs under the passenger side seat. POP bags or otherwise. Set the PP at around ~10.3. Put all passengers on the riders side You ought to have all the wake you need to get going right there. You want to ride in the middle third of the wave, that is where all the power is. Keep the nose of the board pointing the same direction as the nose of the boat, or inward slightly. If you are pointing out, you will have no power at all. Front foot is the gas pedal, back foot is the brake pedal. It takes a lot more time to develop speed than to lose it. Your boat will be a bit better on the starboard side, due to prop rotation, but port will be fine.
      What board? how much do you weigh?

      I would like to say you are a great attribute to this site. I weigh 185. I have a 4'9 broadcast and a custom 4'2. I'm having more trouble holding it with the custom than the broadcast.
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      • tdc_worm
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Feb 2004
        • 532



        #33
        in my experience, the 210 has a short pocket, which may make it harder to stay in....there is less room for error.

        depending on the board, some boards like to be ridden more. what i mean is some boards dont like the be just cruised on...they like to be shredded. this seems particularly true of fast boards w/ wider noses. my walker is all gas or all brakes. to keep in in the pocket, you need to be slayshing it.

        toes near the edge will help you, but it masks a persons inability to ride the board. in the long run, it will hurt you when trying 360s, airs and on frontside lip slides. i equate it to needing fins on a wakeboard...if you think you need fins, then you dont know how to properly edge.

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        • WakeSlayer
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Sep 2005
          • 2069

          • Silver Creek, MN

          • 1968 Mustang

          #34
          Originally posted by tdc_worm View Post
          depending on the board, some boards like to be ridden more. what i mean is some boards dont like the be just cruised on...they like to be shredded. this seems particularly true of fast boards w/ wider noses. my walker is all gas or all brakes. to keep in in the pocket, you need to be slayshing it.
          Very well put. I have a couple that you simply are not going to just sit and ride them,


          Originally posted by tdc_worm View Post
          toes near the edge will help you, but it masks a persons inability to ride the board. in the long run, it will hurt you when trying 360s, airs and on frontside lip slides. i equate it to needing fins on a wakeboard...if you think you need fins, then you dont know how to properly edge.
          My statement about this earlier neglected to mention that this typically applies to the beginner and bigger surf or cruising style boards. I should have written that more clearly. When a person is learning, I feel this is the best way to teach them, and give them additional help getting the feeling of the wave and some free extra power. As you progress to a higher skill level and smaller boards, this is totally unnecessary. Johnboy, the LF Custom 4.2 is a pretty high level trick board, and requires a good deal of skill to ride well. It is also what I consider to be the best all around board out there. Tied for that is the IS Skim Moss. Flex your knees, put your arms out a bit, lower and widen your center of gravity. You will be able to ride the crap out of that board in no time. It is awesome.
          Personally, I go between 190 and 195, and predominantly ride a TrickBardz Glass Surf Skate. The board is rated at (I think) 155lbs or something like that. I have no business being able to ride this board at my weight.

          It just takes wave time to get there, they don't give it away free at the door.
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          • johnboyy7
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Oct 2009
            • 409

            • houston


            #35
            Thanks so much for the help and advice. The winter has forsure made me rusty. I can cut pretty good on the broadcast. I agree I just need more time back there. One more question.... My buddy is 6'2" 225, what is a good board and length for him. He is a surfer but new to wakesurf.
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            • WakeSlayer
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Sep 2005
              • 2069

              • Silver Creek, MN

              • 1968 Mustang

              #36
              Big friends are good to have when you go surfin !! i am going to say he will need every bit of that Broadcast until he is a good rider. He would have to ride the Custom pretty hard to stay in the wave. Refer back to what TDC said, the bigger you are, and the smaller the board, the harder you have to ride it.
              the WakeSlayer
              1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
              1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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              • flyboywakesurf
                • May 2010
                • 2

                • Acampo, CA


                #37
                Originally posted by WakeSlayer View Post
                Big friends are good to have when you go surfin !!
                LOL! So true! We call them LRC's - Left Rear Corner.
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                • WakeSlayer
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 2069

                  • Silver Creek, MN

                  • 1968 Mustang

                  #38
                  Ha. Then I shall call mine RRC from here forward !!!

                  Flyboy, that is a bada$$ move. I have yet to get myself out of the water like that.
                  the WakeSlayer
                  1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
                  1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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                  • johnboyy7
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 409

                    • houston


                    #39
                    A very sweet move.
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                    • janswake
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 125

                      • Isle LaMotte, Vermont


                      #40
                      Wow nice air Flyboy.I am currently riding a cwb tsunami and I have serious trouble catching good air.Is this board more geared for surfing and less for tricks if so what would be a good trick or skim style board for me.any advise would be greatly appreciated.

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                      • flyboywakesurf
                        • May 2010
                        • 2

                        • Acampo, CA


                        #41
                        Thanks guys, I appreciate the props.

                        janswake - the wakesurfboards manufactured by the wakeboard manufacturers, for the most part, aren't serious performance boards. They are injection molded price point offerings meant for folks that are new to the sport. They are heavy, rugged and slow. For their intended purpose, though, it's tough to fault the likes of the broadcast or tsunami.

                        I manufacture and sell FlyBoy Wakesurf boards, so I'm a little biased. For years I rode for Mike Walker of the Walker Project and he sold my James Walker Signature model up until I started my own brand.

                        I did write an article, you might be able to find it on ezinearticles or you can go to my blog and read it here - everything you need to know about buying an aerial wakesurf board. Catchy title, huh? It talks about the 4 attributes that all good aerial boards have. In short, you'll catching air struggle with that Tsunami because of the lack of rocker and the rail shape.

                        I hope that helps, and feel free to give me a shout if you need more info.

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                        • uwhusky
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 320

                          • Salt Lake City

                          • 2015 SANTE 210 w/PCM 450hp engine

                          #42
                          For those of you with a 220, do you use the v-drive fat sac W701 or W708 in the rear storage? The W701 is the rectangular sac and the W708 says it was designed for mid-2000's year Nautiques. They are more triangular in shape and tapered.

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                          • tdc_worm
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 532



                            #43
                            w707-750lbs

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                            • uwhusky
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 320

                              • Salt Lake City

                              • 2015 SANTE 210 w/PCM 450hp engine

                              #44
                              Will it fit?

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                              • tdc_worm
                                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 532



                                #45
                                yes. it will completely fill every inch of the locker whereas the w701 will leave unfilled space in the locker

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