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  • wakehead
    • Dec 2009
    • 240



    #1

    Wakesurf Purchase question

    Hi Guys,

    I am new to wakesurfing and I am about to buy my first board. I am looking at the hyperlite broadcast. Here is my thing i dont know if i should get the 5'6 model or the 4,9 ft model. What is the difference and what do you all suggest i buy for size. They are both the same price.

    Thanks
    210 SANTE
  • steve-o
    • Jul 2009
    • 231



    #2
    I'm 6'2" 210 and the 5.6 broadcast is not "fast" enough for me. I can't get it right. Of course there's not much help from others in my area for surfing, so I am still trial and error-ing it. I have a monster surf wake; I think I need to work on shaping it some more. I don't really know if it's the board or the water, but there is probably something better. I see people surfing on wake half the size of mine.

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    • GoBig
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Apr 2008
      • 551

      • Santa Cruz, CA


      #3
      While board size has most to do with your size/weight a bigger board is generally better for beginners. The larger the board, the more "floaty" it is = more stability, easier to ride without the handle.
      2003 SANTE

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      • HS
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 1333

        • Sammamish, WA

        • 2010 SANTE 210 (Sold)

        #4
        Originally posted by wakehead View Post
        Hi Guys,

        I am new to wakesurfing and I am about to buy my first board. I am looking at the hyperlite broadcast. Here is my thing i dont know if i should get the 5'6 model or the 4,9 ft model. What is the difference and what do you all suggest i buy for size. They are both the same price.

        Thanks
        Check out this rider chart http://www.inlandsurfer.com/riderchart.htm

        My first board was the Blue Lake Quad fin. I am only in my second season, so FWIW: Just before I dialed in the wake for surfing, I changed to / added their "big boy" fins which I think helped me keep up with the wave, and then I added a sack in the bow and things really improved for me. 350 in the bow - 370 under the port bench - 350 on the stern walk-thru and full factory ballast.

        I also really like using my friend's IS Black Pearl - Yellow which is a skim style board that I really enjoy now that I have a little experience.
        2010 Super Air Nautique 210 Team Edition

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        • bowvan
          • Aug 2005
          • 100

          • sacramento


          #5
          Unless you can pick up a used one for a low price, don't wast your money on a Broadcast. The only thing a Broadcast is good for is teaching people how to get up and go straight. It's hard to freeride (especially for for big guys), it doesn't like to carve and spinning is near impossible.

          If you have any wakeboarding or wakeskating experience at all, I would recommend buying a higher performance board. There are a ton of other choices. Look for any beginner/intermediate level board that uses real surf style fin boxes (FCS or Future). This will give you access to way more fin options. By using different fin set-ups you can drastically change the attributes of your board, making it suitable to a wider range of skill levels and weight ranges.

          Price will be your only limiting factor. Most of the manufactures that offer FCS or Future fin boxes tend to be a bit pricey. You should expect to pay around $300- $400 for a beginner/intermediate level board with "real" fin boxes.

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          • WakeSlayer
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Sep 2005
            • 2069

            • Silver Creek, MN

            • 1968 Mustang

            #6
            Originally posted by bowvan View Post
            Unless you can pick up a used one for a low price, don't wast your money on a Broadcast. The only thing a Broadcast is good for is teaching people how to get up and go straight. It's hard to freeride (especially for for big guys), it doesn't like to carve and spinning is near impossible.
            Well put. Find a board like that and only ride it a couple times. I use our old LandLock for the same purpose. You will be bored silly after 5 rides. I am 6'0 and 190, and ride a board rated at 160 lbs or so.
            As far as catching the wave, bend your knees and flex them over your ankles. Cheat your toes quite a ways towards the toe side of the board. arms out helps with balance and and acceleration. Front foot is the gas, back foot is the brakes.
            the WakeSlayer
            1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
            1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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            • johnboyy7
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Oct 2009
              • 409

              • houston


              #7
              My buddy just got the ronix koal. 5'2. He is 6'2 225. He loves it. Very easy to ride
              04 SANTE 210
              89 SPORT

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              • vr6mole
                • Feb 2009
                • 106

                • Carnegie, PA


                #8
                Originally posted by steve-o View Post
                I'm 6'2" 210 and the 5.6 broadcast is not "fast" enough for me. I can't get it right. Of course there's not much help from others in my area for surfing, so I am still trial and error-ing it. I have a monster surf wake; I think I need to work on shaping it some more. I don't really know if it's the board or the water, but there is probably something better. I see people surfing on wake half the size of mine.
                You're doing it wrong. Last year I was 6'1 and 232 lbs and could ride the shorter version no problem behind an 01 SAN on the wrong prop rotation side (i ride regular)

                If you can find a deal on one its worth picking up. I also ride my friends Gridwater Slysh and love it. Last year I was not able to ride it but I lost 45 lbs over the winter and it works perfectly for me
                2001 SAN

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                • jimmyj
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 87



                  #9
                  if you know how to surf, you can ride pretty much any size board no matter how big you are, obviously to a certain extent. i was 220 and could ride the 4'2" foam LF surfboard (cant remember the name right now) behind a medicore wake no problem. we get our 250+ buddy to ride the 4'8" COMP I. when it first came out, the recommended weight was <175.

                  it seems ini the mid 4 ft are what a lot of higher performance boards are. 4'6" 4"8" something around this.

                  completely agree with buying a board that will allow you to grow. the broadcast is decent at best. itll allow you to ride. but once you learn how to keep the wave, youll be buying somethign else. im a fan of shred stixx.

                  you will also need to figure out if your style is skim or surf. that determines with board you will want to buy.

                  sorry for the rambling. talking about surfing is good stuff.

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                  • wakehead
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 240



                    #10
                    you guys are the best. Thanks for all the input.

                    I am not going to buy the broadcast. I have good balance and as mentioned have been snowboarding for 15 years and waking for 6 years so im sure ill pick it up quick with a 4'6 or something like that.

                    Does anyone have any input on these following boards

                    Phase 5
                    CWB
                    Liquid force venture 5'0
                    Hyperlite swell 4'3 (i found one for 300 bucks)
                    Byerly, I have been eyeing this one as well
                    I would also like to know your thoughts on the Hyperlite COEX this is very cost efficient as well

                    Looking forward to see what you guys have to say on these ...
                    Last edited by wakehead; 05-27-2010, 08:12 AM.
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                    • jimmyj
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 87



                      #11
                      any company that makes wakesboards and surf boards i would stay away from. get something from a company that makes wakesurfboards. ie shred stixx, walker project, inland surfer, etc.

                      hyperlite swell, never tried.
                      coex is skim style. sucked terribly IMO.
                      wouldnt touch a phase 5 or CWB with a 14 ft stick.
                      the LF venture is decent. much like the broadcast. little easier and more fun to ride than the boardcast though. its a decent all around beginner board. you will tire quickly. if this is the route you take, look for the 4'6" version.

                      dude, honestly i would save the dough and get a nice surf board. you will not regret it, your surfing will get better much faster and it will be more fun to ride. it sucks to plop 650 bucks or so for a surfer, but it is what it is. 50k boat, 600 wakesurfer. not too crazy.

                      if you are comfortable on the wakeboard, and you have been snowboarding for years, your balance should be pretty good i would say. i would hope. if you like surf style riding (ie slaysh, cut backs, airs,) look into the shred stixx line. if you are good on boards in general, i would consider the "thresher shredder" its pretty aggressive advanced board, but like i said, if you are good with balance and boards, you will pick it up in about 5-7 rides. it will take your surfing to ridiculous levels. if you wanna get real froggy, the COMP I is the jam. EXTREMELY aggressive, quick, powerful. but it will be a bit difficult to LEARN on. its like a dang jet fighter.

                      they just came out with the 'elevation' as well, havent had a chance to try it yet. its an even more juiced version that the comp I. maybe next season!

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                      • WakeSlayer
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 2069

                        • Silver Creek, MN

                        • 1968 Mustang

                        #12
                        Love the Phase 5's. I have an Oogle, 4.10 this is also a great board to learn on if you put a big fin on it. Then you can put a small fin and trick on it very well. This was the first board we started doing 360's on. I also have the Icon, which is 4.3. Have ridden a Prop quite a bit and the frist Danielo Pro board by them. Plus, Phase5 boards are one of a kind artist graphics and are supercool looking.

                        http://www.phase5boards.com/
                        the WakeSlayer
                        1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
                        1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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                        • Red57Bird
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 381

                          • Raleigh, NC/Lake Gaston

                          • 2003 Super Air

                          #13
                          Originally posted by wakehead View Post
                          you guys are the best. Thanks for all the input.

                          I am not going to buy the broadcast. I have good balance and as mentioned have been snowboarding for 15 years and waking for 6 years so im sure ill pick it up quick with a 4'6 or something like that.

                          Does anyone have any input on these following boards

                          Phase 5
                          CWB
                          Liquid force venture 5'0
                          Hyperlite swell 4'3 (i found one for 300 bucks)
                          Byerly, I have been eyeing this one as well
                          I would also like to know your thoughts on the Hyperlite COEX this is very cost efficient as well

                          Looking forward to see what you guys have to say on these ...
                          I think most surfers on this forum will tell you that, in general, the boards from the big wakeboard companies are just OK. The LF Customs are decent boards and I'm sure that there are some other decent boards from the biggies. The best boards are made by what I'll call the boutique companies like Inland Surfer, Phase 5, Shred Stixx, Triple X, Grindwater, The Walker Project, just to name a few. Biggest issue is these boards are pricey, but you get what you pay for.

                          We have the LF Venture and it is an OK board that we use for beginners, but that is about it. I ordered the new IS Squirt that will be here tomorrow and I'll be riding it this weekend. It is a price point compression molded board, but it is supposedly very fast and kind of a hybrid between a surf and skim board. I'll try and remember to post again after I try out the Squirt.
                          2003 SAN (current)
                          2003 Chaparral 220 SSi (sold)

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                          • wakehead
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 240



                            #14
                            thanks everyone for the replies. I have been taking everyone's responses seriously and i will not go with the broad cast.

                            Here is what i am thinking.

                            Let me know what you guys think

                            2010 Inland Surfer Squirt or Tsunami 57 Inch Wakesurfer by CWB I can get either one for 350 $

                            your thoughts?
                            210 SANTE

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                            • Latonkaboarder
                              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 372

                              • Mercer, Pennsylvania

                              • 81 Ski Nautique when growing up 2007 SANTE 210 2008 SANTE 210

                              #15
                              I agree with Wakeslayer on the phase 5 boards. We demoed an oogle and a drew pro last weekend. Ended up getting the oogle for now but I am also going to pick up the drew pro. I was told that the prop is between the pro and oogle as far as performance goes. I also have an older broadcast. It is a 4'8" and I still like that board as well. The broadcast is very easy to learn on and works well for bigger guys. I am 220lbs btw. If you can try to demo a couple of boards before purchasing. They all ride and perform different.
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