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  • EXTREMEFUN1300
    • Sep 2016
    • 95

    • Huntley, IL

    • 2003 SAN210 TE

    #1

    Steering Cable Replacement, 2003 SAN 210

    Hey all, I know this has been covered a couple times here but I wanted to post how I went about replacing my steering cable on my 2003 SAN 210 as I never came across the way I did it. Don't know if it's any better or easier as I've never done one before, but it seemed to make sense in my head and it worked out pretty well.

    For those who need to replace their steering cable and don't want to pay the dealer HUNDREDS of dollars in labor, you have to have some patience and a second helper makes it a little easier, but it's well worth the savings. I bought my cable from NP.com and used the 10% discount code, came out to be around $185 or something close to that.

    -Remove the kick-panel under the dash.
    -Remove starboard bow seat cushion.
    -Carefully cut any cable ties holding any other wires or cable to the steering cable under the dash. Disconnect the 4 bolts holding the rack to the helm/steering shaft (7/16" socket) and carefully guide the rack out the front of the boat so the cable has as straight of a line as possible when it comes time to start pulling it.
    -Remove the dividers between the engine compartment and the hard tank locker on the starboard side for better access to the rudder tiller arm.
    -Disconnect the end of the steering cable from the tiller arm (9/16" socket on the nut & 5/8" open end on the head of the bolt), and the large nut (1-1/8" open end wrench I believe it was) holding the steering cable to the pivoting guide shaft. It's hard to get a full swing with the big wrench as there's limited room, takes a few minutes.
    -Slide the cable forward enough to clear the engine mount, then pull up on the end of the cable and slide it back a little so the end is now pointing upward as much as possible and accessible.
    -I bought a 10' piece of 1/2" PVC, drilled a 1/4" hole through it about 1" from the end. Cost was around $2.50 at the local hardware store.
    -Lay it in the sun for a little while to soften it up a bit so it's flexible. Slide the end with the 1/4" hole over the end of the steering cable, align the hole in the PVC to the hole in the end of the cable that attaches to the tiller arm and use a 1/4"-20 x 1" pan head screw to bolt them together. The screw won't tighten completely, but it's enough to hold it in place.
    -This is where a second person helps, but have someone pull the cable from the front while you bend and guide the PVC down through the bottom of the hull. The steering cable is stiff, so is the PVC, so it follows the same line going out as well as coming back in with the new cable. For those unaware, the cable runs through a guide tube in the center of the boat and is not accessible. If you don't attach SOMETHING to the end of the old cable when you pull it out, it'll only be shear luck you'll get the new cable back in it and routed like the factory does.
    -Once the end of the cable with the PVC attached comes out under the starboard bow seat, remove the bolt, remove the old cable, and install the new cable into the PVC and reinstall the bolt.
    -Start pushing the new cable through, it'll take a little finagling to get the large nut down into the passage and into the guide tube, but a couple good push/pulls and twists back and forth and it popped through.
    -As the PVC gets back to the engine area guide it up and out until the end is accessible to remove the 1/4" bolt holding the cable. Remove the bolt and PVC, reinstall the cable same as the old one came apart. I packed the inside of the large nut with grease before I reinstalled it, that's where the cable rod enters/exits the sheathing so I thought it would be a good idea.
    THE HARD PART IS DONE!
    -Re-route the rack back under the dash, bolt into place and turn the wheel to witness the buttery feeling you've been missing for so long!

    Be sure to check:
    -The rudder is straight when the steering wheel is straight.
    -The wheel turns equally in both directions.

    I had to remove my steering wheel to re-spline it AND adjust the pivoting guide tube before the tiller arm 1/4" to get everything perfect (wasn't perfect before). Rudder's straight, steering wheel's straight and turns equally in both directions.

    Hope this helps anyone on the fence, it's not a quick job but it's very satisfying doing it yourself and saving like $400!

    Matt

    Last edited by EXTREMEFUN1300; 06-19-2017, 03:53 PM.
  • DW SD
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Mar 2015
    • 416

    • San Diego county

    • 2001 SAN 210

    #2
    This is a clever solution! Thanks for sharing


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    • Paxdad
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Mar 2013
      • 775

      • Cumming, GA

      • 2008 210 SANTE

      #3
      Clever indeed, next time take some photos as I am struggling to picture the pvc as used.


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      2008 210 SANTE

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      • gome123
        • Apr 2014
        • 199

        • ID

        • 2005 SAN 210 Team

        #4
        Great Idea with the PVC tube. I am ordering the cable tonight and will attempt next weekend. If I remember to update I will share how your process works.

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        • EXTREMEFUN1300
          • Sep 2016
          • 95

          • Huntley, IL

          • 2003 SAN210 TE

          #5
          Thanks guys! I brought my phone out to take photos as that was my intent, but admittedly I'm a little impatient and once I got started I didn't want to pause for pics.
          As mentioned, having a second person definitely helps when it comes time for the pushing and pulling, and getting the pvc nice and warm in the sun so it's flexible helps a ton as well. Ideally, something more flexible but still slightly rigid would work even better, but the standard 1/2" pvc was really inexpensive and immediately available.
          Good luck with the project, hope all goes well!

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          • kmarine
            • Jun 2017
            • 109

            • chicago

            • boss gt40

            #6
            clever idea, I generally attach the new cable to the old one with cable ties and use the old cable to fish new cable through. a assistant is a must. like the raceway idea especially if you want to add other things in the future.

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            • gome123
              • Apr 2014
              • 199

              • ID

              • 2005 SAN 210 Team

              #7
              Well I just finished doing my cable. I just took my boat apart. Took out all seats, ballast tanks, and removed the Fuel Tank cover. The cable was already ran above the fuel tank. So I just attached a rope at the rudder end and pull out through the nose of the boat. Then attached the new cable to the rope and pulled slowly. The only snag was getting from the helm under the boat. Then back by the fuel tank and the transmission mount. Other than that it only took 30 min to run the cable through. I did it by myself. This is truly a DIY. Not too bad. Granted I had all covers removed. Thanks to this forum for all the help.

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              • jlliles87
                • May 2016
                • 43

                • Guntersville

                • 2014 G23 Past boats: 2007 SV-211

                #8
                I'm about to tackle this. I'm thinking about using PEX pipe instead of PVC as it's a good bit more flexible so it shouldn't need to be heated

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                • EXTREMEFUN1300
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 95

                  • Huntley, IL

                  • 2003 SAN210 TE

                  #9
                  That would work a little easier for sure!

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                  • tachudda
                    • Jul 2015
                    • 54

                    • Orlando, FL

                    • 2004 SANTE 210

                    #10
                    Excited to give this a shot on our 2004. Girlfriend has been complaining about shoulders getting wrecked driving at low speed, but 800 was always more than I could justify on something I thought I could do.

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                    • jlliles87
                      • May 2016
                      • 43

                      • Guntersville

                      • 2014 G23 Past boats: 2007 SV-211

                      #11
                      How long did it take you guys to do this project start to finish? I have a 2007 211 and this had been the most difficult project of any kind that I have ever tried.

                      I'm probably 4 hours in and I just got the old cable pulled through the pivot arm. And it feels impossible to try and actually pull the cable because my throttle reverse and belly tank hoses are all packed into a small channel alongside thegas and belly tank. And of course the cable is on the bottom of that stack so it feels pinched by all the other hoses on top of it. Is this similar to everybody else's setup?

                      2007 SV-211 Team Edition

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                      • jlliles87
                        • May 2016
                        • 43

                        • Guntersville

                        • 2014 G23 Past boats: 2007 SV-211

                        #12
                        Okay I finished my replacement last night. A couple notes to add to this thread from my experience:
                        - 1/2 Pex pipe is the way to go. It usually comes in a 20 ft stick and that left about 4 feet sticking out from the engine compartment when I got my old cable pulled through. I used zip ties to attach the pex pipe to the steering cables.
                        - A second person is an absolute must when pulling the cables in and out. I'm not sure if other models are done this way, but the factory had 5 hoses/cables jammed into a small crevice on the starboard side of the gas/belly tank.
                        - It took me 3 tries to find and cut all of the zip ties holding all of those cables/hoses together and there were still a couple I couldn't reach, just had to break them loose when pulling the cable.

                        The change was HUGE on my boat, I got it new in '07 and it never turned that easily, but we discovered my factory cable had a section wrapped in electrical tape. I removed it to find the cable sheathing had been gashed and taped over and the inside was rusty. I'm pretty disappointed in CC's quality control for letting something that bad make it off the production floor. All in all it was the biggest pain the butt of a project I've ever done so hopefully don't have to do it again for a while.

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                        • tachudda
                          • Jul 2015
                          • 54

                          • Orlando, FL

                          • 2004 SANTE 210

                          #13
                          Started this last night. Having a **** of a time getting the nut off the guide arm. Cannot apply very much force on that where it is and it is locked on pretty good. Don't seem to have any issues with zip ties or anything on the portion of the cable that I can see. If I can get it disconnected, should be easy from there.

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                          • jlliles87
                            • May 2016
                            • 43

                            • Guntersville

                            • 2014 G23 Past boats: 2007 SV-211

                            #14
                            Originally posted by tachudda
                            Started this last night. Having a **** of a time getting the nut off the guide arm. Cannot apply very much force on that where it is and it is locked on pretty good. Don't seem to have any issues with zip ties or anything on the portion of the cable that I can see. If I can get it disconnected, should be easy from there.
                            Most of the cables on mine are around the fuel and belly tank. Had to remove the entire floor section to access them. Regarding the nut, I had to set the wrench from the starboard side and then pull the closed side of the wrench from the port side. After a couple rounds of that it was loose enough to get with a small adjustable wrench.

                            My problem was I could set the wrench but my hand couldn't reach far enough along the wrench to turn the nut. I was just pulling up on it

                            2007 SV-211 Team Edition

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                            • tachudda
                              • Jul 2015
                              • 54

                              • Orlando, FL

                              • 2004 SANTE 210

                              #15
                              So, managed to get the nut off. Had to remove the guide tube, used a bunch of 3 in one oil to work it off. Applied heat, hit it repeatedly with a hammer. Finally managed to get it off. Then, there's 2 cables for throttle and transmission run through that little tube. The nut won't physically fit. So, at had to cut the cable with an angle grinder and then we ran the cable over the fuel tank in the crevice on the starboard side with the other wires. Probably 10 hours, could have been 3 if I had admitted defeat on the nut earlier

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