Follow-up. 93 Sport Nautique. New problem-help!

[Air206]

The final authority- What does your pregnant wife say??? If she isn't gung-ho on a new boat, that will cost you more than money .. proceed cautiously (fellow married guy - with a great wife who loves Nautiques!!!! Thank Goodness-) !!!!!

BTW - I sold a '92 CC and bought an '04 206 (ZR6) - it is awesome but EXPENSIVE, esp after the 92 payments have been over for a while.........

[thevogt]

She's ok with the new boat as long as we keep the payment the same as the '93. My concern is the deal itself. I bought my '93 in July of the same year and it was discounted over $8000 from the stated MSRP. This is a 2 year old new boat that they are only discounting it $4000. Have they lost markup in 10 model years or was I lucky the first time? The best bet for this season may be to refinance the '93 and pull some repair cash from it. Oh well. Thanks for the response.

Gary

[Air206]

She's ok with the new boat as long as we keep the payment the same as the '93. My concern is the deal itself. I bought my '93 in July of the same year and it was discounted over $8000 from the stated MSRP. This is a 2 year old new boat that they are only discounting it $4000. Have they lost markup in 10 model years or was I lucky the first time? The best bet for this season may be to refinance the '93 and pull some repair cash from it. Oh well. Thanks for the response.

Gary

These links may help figure out which side of the deal you are on:

http://www.flipsell.com/Phase3/home/...VehicleID=6395

http://www.flipsell.com/Phase3/home/...VehicleID=6327

http://www.flipsell.com/Phase3/home/...VehicleID=6342

http://www.flipsell.com/Phase3/home/...VehicleID=6142

http://www.flipsell.com/Phase3/home/...VehicleID=5810

NADA Guides

I would wonder what the rig is worth once it is titled to me with ______ hours .... If that number sounds about right, it is nice to get that number without advertizing and being without a boat. Convenience costs a little - the question is that cost effective for you??

[thevogt]

Air206-

Those were my thoughts. Although it is a new boat with 4 hours on it, it is 2 years old. Thanks for the links, cool site. Had the NADA site already and there was no 2003 option for CC boats, oh well. I think they have some room left to negotiate based on the fact they went to Tennessee to get the boat. It must have been a great buy for them if they went that far to get it. If I got over 8K off the one year old new '93, there has to be more room on the '03. At least I hope so. We'll see what the technician has to say on monday about the carb and transmission and go from there. My experience with the warranty of the previous repairs will have alot to do with my willingness to conduct future business with them. I post the results when they happen.

Gary

[SGY]

Have you gone out in the 206 yet? You owe it to yourself to go for a ride. I love my 206.

I think the deal on the 206 is fair--although you might be able to get them to come down a bit more. This is especially true if CC is making any changes to the 05 model. I curious where they are coming up with around $12,000 for your 93 Sport. I would've thought it was worth at least $17,000 retail and about $14,000 wholesale. I've seen some 93 and 94 Sports sell for $17,000 to $18,000 range. You might think about trying to sell the Sport yourself. Shouldn't be that hard to sell in your area.

Go for a ride in the 206.

[SGY]

P.S. As a point of reference,I bought my 206 Limited with 85 hours for $35,000. It has PP, shower, heater, custom mooring cover, single axle Ramlin, Bimini. You can find them for under $35,000 now. I wouldn't hesitate to buy used. You still can get the lifetime hull, deck, and stringer warranty and the balance of PCM's warranty (I think.) Also, I almost pulled the trigger on a new 206 Limited with none of the above options for $33,500--from Clear Lake Marina in Pa. So, you can push them a bit.

[thevogt]

SGY,
Thanks. That is exactly the info I was looking for. I knew they had to have mor room to move either on my boat or theirs. I think they are $4-5k away from a real deal with me. If I can get them in that range with a bimini thrown in, I think I'll pull the trigger. Besides, I may be looking at a few hundred worth of trans leak to fix anyway. Thanks again.

Gary

[SGY]

No sweat. Keep in mind that at the time, CC was offering a rebate or something similar on new 03's. This put them at $31,000 for the boat and another $2500 (approximate) for trailer. With the Ramlin, it was closer to $3000.

Also, the Navigation Company in PA was offering a used 206 for $33,700 with PP and Bimini, etc. It was a signature edition, however. It had around 100 hours.

By the way, Clear Lake Marina is in Indiana, The Navigation Company is in PA. Both were very good to work with. You might also call the guys at Mid Ohio Nautiques. They too are very good and seem to have the selection. If your serious, about a buy, I'd do some research. For example, Seth Stisher had his Promo 206 for sale for $35,700 or so. Not sure if it is still for sale but it was the nicest I've seen. It is all black with a silver cloud secondary stripe. It is the Limited Edition and has a tower and bimini tower with PP and shower and heater. Sweet boat. I'll see if I can still find it and will post here again.

[SGY]

I found Stisher's boat. It's on Ski-it-again.com. You'll have to scroll three or four pages deep into you find it. Its the 2003 206 and is listed for $35,700. IMHO, it's the nicest 206 for sale right now. And because its a promo, chances are good it's been well cared for.

Good luck.

[thevogt]

Great info, thanks. I'm leaning towards the new(er) boat just for the sake of reliability. If you can post some links for some of these other places you've mentioned, it would be great. Thanks again for your input. It is very helpful.

Gary

[SGY]

Hey Gary, the 03 and 04 models are identical--save a few cosmetics and stereo remote. (The 03 was the first year for the 206.) I wouldn't be too worried about reliability of an 03 206. In fact a promo boat would have all kinks (assuming there are any) worked out.

Here are some links.

www.ski-it-again.com

www.flipsell.com

www.boattrader.com

On the boattrader link just do a search for Correct Craft as the mfg'er and 206 under the key word search.

Good luck.

[Air206]

Hey Gary, the 03 and 04 models are identical--save a few cosmetics and stereo remote. (The 03 was the first year for the 206.) I wouldn't be too worried about reliability of an 03 206. In fact a promo boat would have all kinks (assuming there are any) worked out.

Here are some links.

www.ski-it-again.com

www.flipsell.com

www.boattrader.com

On the boattrader link just do a search for Correct Craft as the mfg'er and 206 under the key word search.

Good luck.

One thing - The ballast tank options changed in '04 (colored deck too). If your ballast tank requirements are great. '04s have a single, smaller tank whereas the 03's have 2 tanks for double the weight. To help w/ space on our '04 206 we went w/o hard tanks and I'm plumbing in perm bladders - that way we get the space when not full of water. Just a comment for the discussion.............

[thevogt]

Thanks for the links. Reliability was in reference to my '93. No boarders in the family, yet, so the tanks aren't an issue. Got to teach them to ski and such first. The lake is new to all of us, although I grew up show skiing on Wonder Lake in Illinois. They still have a little fear of the unknown if you know what I mean. Hopefully the deal on the 206 will sweeten in the next day or so. The one at Bell Lake that I'm looking at is a new leftover '03 with 4.6 hrs on the clock. Thanks for all the input from everyone. Maybe I'll get some good news on the '93 while I mull over the deal on the '03 206.

Gary

[thevogt]

Just got the call from the shop on my trans/idle problem. As they stated before, the boat will go into reverse without a bog at the specified idle RPM. It wil bog and die in forward. Their diagnosis, other than the front seal leak, is the power valve is sticking and possible forward clutch pack damage. Labor to pull and diagnose only and reinstall without repair is $200. It could cost, according to them, $400-600 to replace the power valve and fron seal including all labor. I know I can get a rebuilt exchange with a 1yr warranty for $850 plus shipping. Anyone have any advice? I have told them I will get back to them on whether to go ahead or not. Am I crazy for thinking of dumping it or should I shop the repair around to another shop? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks.

Gary

[NautiqueJeff]

If you're going to keep it, I would go ahead and have a rebuilt unit installed. That way you know everything will work. Having yours repaired costs almost as much, and the peace of mind of having a new one would be worth the extra little bit of money to me.

That being said, If you're living in a ski community now, you'll most likely be putting LOTS of hours on your boat. That 206 sounds very tempting. If I was in your place, I'd look hard at the 206.