Ballast Bag Sensor Replacement (a new approach)

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  • Scooter G
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jan 2022
    • 1433

    • On a Lake in Idaho

    • 2022 G23 ZZ8

    #1

    Ballast Bag Sensor Replacement (a new approach)

    I’m not an engineer, but I play one on TV.
    There have been other comments on replacing Sensors, from “I could do it again in 30 minutes” to, “It’s a royal bee-atch and I had to break my arm in 3 places to get to it”, I have read them all. I would have to agree with the latter. It’s not easy to get to, and you are flying blind when you do. Our Port Side Sensor was reading a constant 80% @ empty, and 100% when we started to fill. I thought this a great project for my Son, young and nimble. We removed the engine side obstacles and bracket, pretty straight forward. Visual on the top of the bag location of the Sensor and incoming hose at the stern left corner. Stuck my phone in the access port at the back bottom of the, I will call it the frame rail, and tried to get a decent picture to see what we were up against. Unclipped the wire from the Sensor with some touchy feely on the release tab. The new “upgraded Sensor” was at 15/16”, so we started that direction, too small, went with a 1” deep well socket and nailed it. I heard a clunk, “Son, you drop the wrench?” “Ya, and I can’t reach it”. I slipped in, and with my arm in as painfully far as I could get it, I was able to recapture the flex socket wrench just barely with an out stretched finger. Old Sensor removed, switched back to the 15/16” deep well socket, and guessing the correct angle, threads started, new Sensor in. To this point, all was not too bad, just a slight test of patience. Here’s where my patience started to run thin: The new cable is a push in with a screw cap connector, much better design, IMO. But, if you are trying to make that happen by feel without a visual, and try to turn the cable to get it aligned to just the correct spot after the new sensor is already in, good luck, you are better than I am. Maybe the key is to install the cable 1st, and then use a 1” wrench, or judging by the old Sensor that I pulled out (obviously had been replaced before), showed the hack mark signs of channel lock pliers. Without giving it too much thought, I went to the tool box, grabbed a drill and a 4” hole saw. This is where Earl Dibbles Jr would say, I made me a new access hole, yee yee! Much to the look of horror on my Son’s face, lol.
    Do I recommend everyone start punching 4” holes in their boat when things get difficult, probably not. I do feel that no animals were harmed in this production, and the structural integrity of the boat is intact, this is mostly just a holding cell for the ballast bag. When it is time to replace the Starboard Sensor, I will do a repeat. From there forward, this becomes a 15-minute fix, for certain. I have left the screws out of the deck access cover and will do a visual inspection over the next few boating sessions to check for any signs of chaos. I don’t foresee any problems. Bags are tough, and our last boat, the bags were in the open within the lockers with obstacles always poking & prodding them, no harm no foul. My famous line, Engineers should be required to work on their own designs. Thanks to Nautique for the upgraded Sensors, good work. I did not have to do any type of Linc system update, filled, emptied, turned system off, and then back on - good to go.

    My thanks to Bsamg25 and his post and everyone's feedback. You can read his write up here: https://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/f...p-sensor-fault.

    You can find the plates on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DW7HDT9...roduct_details

    The pictures tell the story…
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    Used a Dremel to slightly feather the edges of the 4" hole


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    2 Pack 4" bulk head covers
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    I used just the lid insert, it was basically a perfect screw in fit.

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    If you are trying this at home, make sure you punch right of corner 1 1/2 to 2" to catch the flats. If I had a redo, I would of gone about an 1" higher from the bag. If you use the complete bulk head cover with the outside rim, you will need a 4 1/2" hole, I didn't think this was necessary since the lid by itself was a good tight fit. I will need to grab a pic of a side by side comparison of new Sensor vs old, just for reference...
    Last edited by Scooter G; 4 weeks ago.
  • GMLIII
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • May 2013
    • 2817

    • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

    • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

    #2
    Scooter G great write up for a very common problem most of us will face during ownership of the G or GS series of boats

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    • gonefishin5555
      • May 2018
      • 114

      • SoCal

      • 2017 GS22

      #3
      My boat is a 2017 GS22 and it already has an access hatch with 10 screws. Its still a PITA but you can access the sensor through there.

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      • Scooter G
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Jan 2022
        • 1433

        • On a Lake in Idaho

        • 2022 G23 ZZ8

        #4
        gonefishin5555 are you the original owner?

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        • gonefishin5555
          • May 2018
          • 114

          • SoCal

          • 2017 GS22

          #5
          Pic of ​ access

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          • gonefishin5555
            • May 2018
            • 114

            • SoCal

            • 2017 GS22

            #6
            Been chasing a leak in my ballast system still can’t find it

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            • gadgetwiz
              • Sep 2017
              • 17

              • Blue Springs, MO

              • 2017 G21 Super Air Nautique

              #7
              If you still have those images, can you upload them again? I don't know what the deal is with this website, but missing images makes this site almost completely worthless.
              2017 G21 Super Air Nautique
              2008 Sanger V21
              2004 Calibria Pro V
              1985 Bayliner (/smile)

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              • Scooter G
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Jan 2022
                • 1433

                • On a Lake in Idaho

                • 2022 G23 ZZ8

                #8
                It was a glitch in a backup, wiped out most of my posts.
                It's a pain to rebuild, so I've just waiting for someone to a drive by, and I'll update.
                I'll try to make it happen...

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                • Scooter G
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Jan 2022
                  • 1433

                  • On a Lake in Idaho

                  • 2022 G23 ZZ8

                  #9
                  There we go, remember me at Christmas time.

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                  • NautiqueJeff
                    A d m i n i s t r a t o r
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 17023
                    • Lake Norman

                    • Mooresville, NC

                    • 2026 SAN G23 PNE 1985 Sea Nautique 1980 Twin-Engine Fish Nautique 2300 1978 Cuddy Nautique

                    #10
                    Originally posted by gadgetwiz View Post
                    I don't know what the deal is with this website, but missing images makes this site almost completely worthless.
                    gadgetwiz Thank you for your comment. That makes me feel great about the 25 years of my life that I have poured into this site. I apologize that a glitch by our hosting company, which I spent hours fixing to the best of my ability, restoring most of the pictures that were lost, makes that all worthless for you. I wish you luck in finding better information.

                    If you are interested in educating yourself on what happened, feel free to read the official write-up I posted about the incident here:
                    https://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/f...es-attachments
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