Ballast filling on its own 2005 211 Team

[SG]

I just purchased a 2005 211 Team with 3 tank factory ballast. Everything in the system seems to work as advertised; fills and dumps. However, if I don’t close the port and starboard manual valves in the engine compartment water will fill the tanks while driving the boat at speed. I forgot to close the engine compartment valves (helm valves were all closed) and drove the boat for about 20 minutes, both tanks were full and there was a lot of water in the bilge. The owners manual doesn’t mention the manual valves in the engine compartment and the one in the ski locker for the center tank. The ballast diagram only shows 3 ball valves. Do the manual levers operate different valves that aren’t shown on the diagram? Also, according to the diagram there should be no way for water to enter the bilge. Thanks!

[Neptune442]

https://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/f...ves#post644655

[04SAN210TE]

Highly suggest the link Neptune posted above. Those flow-rite valves are the devil. Lots of resources on here helped me tackle the same problem. Good luck

[SilentSeven]

Another one who'll point the finger at flow right valves. Devil incarnate.

[SG]

I read the thread that Neptune442 referenced. There is a lot of information there but not much recently posted. Apparently the previous owners of my boat just used the manual valves and never bothered to have CC replace the valves.
I am frankly more confused than before I read the post. Is there a simple solution to this problem like replacing the pumps with ones that don’t let water through when turned off?

[04SAN210TE]

Couple things I found:
1) you can change the flow-rites out for new ones and leave your ballast system alone. Pretty sure replacement valves can be found on Amazon or another online retailer and are pretty cheap. A little time, patience and a heat gun make replacing these pretty easy
2) when I dove into mine I also found the ball valves corroded to the point of not closing all the way. To be expected on a 17 year old boat

After doing some research and tips from the good people on planet nautique I decided to gut my ballast system and start almost all the way over. Reversible pumps, wakemaker ballasts bags and new hose. Only downside is I no longer have the ability to use my in dash buttons for the ballasts. There’s a separate DIY article where someone hooked up relays to make them usable but im not that patient and havent studied enough to tackle this yet. So for now i have 3 way toggle switches that came with my pumps.

Happy to share more about what i did if it’s something youre interested in doing.

[SG]

Thanks 04. I think I will look into replacing the old valves with the newer type. I just ordered 3 of the “newer style” valves from nautique parts. Is there a post that shows how to install them on a 2005 SAN 211 Team?

[04SAN210TE]

Glad you ordered 3 b/c you might as well replace that belly one while youre working on it. To replace them youll basically just loosen the hose clamps and wiggle them off, then back the screw out thats on the silver keeper piece and unhook the cable. To install just do everything in reverse, or Id recommend hooking the cable back up last but be sure you can access that screw. Your old ones will probably come out fairly easy but a hest gun always helps, or if you dont have one the. a hair dryer in high heat will help loosen the hoses, just takes a bit longer. when i worked in mine I took the panels out of the engine compartment and it made reaching down in there alot easier. Im no expert so I’m sure others who have done this found other ways to get it doen easier. Good luck!

[04SAN210TE]

Forgot, there are some Youtube videos showing install as well. You’ll see these valves commonly used on livewells and with quick connects. Hose clamps are just fine though.

[SG]

That sounds doable, thanks for the help!!

[shag]

Yep, If I remember right some actually started calling those valves the 'flow wrong' valves lol