1993 SNCB Warm Start Issues After Refueling

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  • rjlubbe13
    • May 2021
    • 2

    • Las Vegas, NV

    • 1993 Correct Craft Ski Nautique CB

    #1

    1993 SNCB Warm Start Issues After Refueling

    Hey Team,

    First time boat owner (1993 SNCB purchased in December 2020) still trying to figure out the basics of boating and a carburetor. Hopefully someone has had a similar issue or could shed some light on what may be the problem.

    The same scenario happens each time after filling up with gas. Fill the gas tank up to full, run the blower for 5 minutes, and then the engine won’t start (with throttle in neutral and turning the key). The engine cranks but will not start. After putting the throttle 1/3 WOT in reverse and moving further into reverse (until WOT and it can’t move any further), the engine will eventually start but unevenly rumbles and is barely hanging on to remain on. Let the boat idle for 5-10 minutes and the engine continues to slowly and unevenly rumble until it starts smoothing out. Then drove it at WOT (assuming it was a flooded carburetor and needed to burn off the excess fuel) and very slowly the engine increases rpm from 2000ish to full capacity over 1-2 minutes (moves up each 200 rpm over 10-15 seconds). Brought the throttle back to idle and the engine seems like it wants to die.

    Prior to refueling, I ran the manual bilge pump and a small amount of clear lake water was emptied until the bilge was dry. After refueling and having the starting problem, I ran the pump again and had a significant (probably 2 or more gallons) of junky looking fluid emptied that looked and smelled like fuel. Looked at the water surrounding the boat and it appeared to be gas and/or oil in the water. Immediately stopped the boat and had it towed to the slip for concern of gas in the bilge.

    Not sure what is happening here. Cold start is fine and warm start in the middle of the lake (i.e. after ski runs, etc.) the boat fires up no problem with turn of the key and no throttle input (throttle in neutral). The only issue with starting the boat is after refueling. In addition, the potential gas/oil leak into the bilge is concerning. Unsure if the starting after refueling issue and potential gas/oil in the bilge are two separate issue or related. The starting after refueling issue potentially seems like a severely flooded carburetor, but not sure why it would only occur after refueling and no other time when starting the engine.

    Had the boat serviced when we first purchased it. The mechanic said he felt the carburetor was not 100% but in fine condition and didn’t need a rebuild at this time. He had no problem starting the engine but I figured it’s because they did cold/warm starts and did not recreate the problem of starting after refueling.

    Thanks in advance for the help.

    Ryan
  • NautiqueJeff
    A d m i n i s t r a t o r
    • Mar 2002
    • 16870
    • Lake Norman

    • Mooresville, NC

    • 2026 SAN G23 PNE 1985 Sea Nautique 1980 Twin-Engine Fish Nautique 2300 1978 Cuddy Nautique

    #2
    Figure out the fuel in the bilge issue first, before anything else.

    I wonder if the fuel tank vent line may have come disconnected from the tank or the vent on the side of the hull. I'd check that first. That would make sense in that only a full tank would allow it to spill gas.

    Once you figure that out, then start diagnosing the carb flooding issue. It is likely that the floats in the carb need to be adjusted. Pull the flame arrestor off, and look for dripping fuel going down into the barrels when the engine is off, but right after running it. If you see some, the floats may need to be adjusted.

    My procedure for starting a flooded carb engine is to advance the throttle to full throttle, crank the engine until it starts, but be ready to IMMEDIATELY pull the throttle back once it starts.
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    • azeus17
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Feb 2008
      • 387

      • Grand Rapids, MI

      • 2022 GS22 - Coming in July Previous Boats: 1989 Sport Nautique 2002 SANTE

      #3
      Like Jeff said...figure out the bilge issue first. How long, after refilling, does the boat run rough? Is it ok on the next cold start? This is a long shot, but I believe the fuel tank is in the stern of those boats and maybe the added weight of a full tank is changing the angle of the boat just enough to allow the floats to leak.

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      • Blamey
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Sep 2015
        • 595

        • New York

        • 2009 SANTE 230 1996 Super Sport

        #4
        I'd cross post to Correct Craft Fan. Lots of members with older boats with carbs over there. Should be able to get a few to help with diagnosis.

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        • rjlubbe13
          • May 2021
          • 2

          • Las Vegas, NV

          • 1993 Correct Craft Ski Nautique CB

          #5
          Thanks everyone for the suggestions. Will take a look into the lines to/from the gas tank first. Probably will start with adjusting the float and/or rebuilding the carburetor to start with the other issue. Appreciate your input.

          Ryan

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          • Jonny Quest
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Aug 2014
            • 434

            • Salt Lake City, Utah via Texas

            • 2003 Ski Nautique 206 Limited with ZR6 Engine

            #6
            Does you engine have the ProTec system? You can tell if the plug wires run to the rear of the engine, it has ProTec. If plug wires run to the front to a typical distributor, then no ProTec. That can help us diagnose the hard start condition.
            Last edited by Jonny Quest; 05-13-2021, 11:16 AM.

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