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  • Adrian
    • Jul 2003
    • 175

    • Spain Europe


    #1

    TSC I rear seat

    When I bought the boat I just wanted a boat for the course so I bought it without rear seat.
    Now, with 3 children things have changed. First idea was to change the boat but here in Spain everybody is with wakeboard and is really dificult to sell a pure slalom boat and I'm really happy with this boat.
    So I decided to buy a rear seat. The problem is to send it from a dealer in the USA to Europe is too expensive so I decided to buy just the skins and make the seat here. I sent an email to Nautiqueskins.co and they gave me a price of 356 $ for that skin. I think the price is OK but they said me it's very tricky to build the seat.
    Do you think so?
    I thought with the skins and pics of seat it would be ease for a good upholstery shop to build it.

    Thanks
  • NCH2oSki
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jul 2003
    • 1159

    • Maryville, TN

    • 2005 ski nautique 206 SE

    #2
    RE: TSC I rear seat

    I agree, to make a copy of the Ski nautique seat would be difficult, the curved upper section would be very difficult.
    2005 Ski Nautique 206 SE, Acme 422, PP SG 8.0, ND Tower
    2011 strada with strada bindings

    Prior Boats:
    1986 Sunbird skier with 150 Evinrude VRO
    1992 Mastercraft prostar 190, with Powerslot
    1999 Ski Nautique GT-40
    1999 Sport Nautique, GT-40 FCT,



    www.skiersofknoxville.org

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    • Rick
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Mar 2004
      • 1250

      • San Diego, Ca

      • 1962 Keaton Utility. 2000 Ski 1965 Barracuda

      #3
      RE: TSC I rear seat

      I beleive you have the curved back section that lifts for storage already upolstered. Don't you just need the 3 cushions you sit on? I have a 2000 SN When I bought it the seats had been removed for storage. 2 of the cushions are mounted to the rear deck The middle one is set betweent the 2 and held in place with a snap. Please post pictures of your rear deck. If I am right I will try this weekend to photograph and measure my cushions for you
      Nautiqueless in San Diego

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      • TRBenj
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • May 2005
        • 1682

        • NWCT


        #4
        Re: RE: TSC I rear seat

        Originally posted by Rick
        I beleive you have the curved back section that lifts for storage already upolstered.
        I thought the trunk was added in 1999 (his is a '98).

        Not gonna be an easy task to make the back seat, even with the skins. Id say it could be done if you have an example on hand to compare to. The best way to build it would be to make a mold of an existing seat base.
        1990 Ski Nautique
        NWCT

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        • M3Fan
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Jul 2003
          • 1034



          #5
          RE: Re: RE: TSC I rear seat

          True- he couldn't have the trunk. It was an option even when it was available (mine doesn't have it). Also, I think the fuel tank is moved under the seat base and is not removable if you have the trunk option, BICBW.
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          2000 Ski Nautique GT-40
          2016 SN 200 H5
          www.Fifteenoff.com

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          • Adrian
            • Jul 2003
            • 175

            • Spain Europe


            #6
            Thank you very much for your answers.

            I think the trunk was added in 2000 with the big N look.
            Here is a pic where you can see the rear part of the boat between the kids. I post also a pic of what I think I have to build. I guess I'm losing something because I just see a carpeted box, the 3 cushions and the back section. I thought the back section could be done with the skin, the foam and a sheet of any kind of plastic to build the curve.
            And the last pic is the boat I thought to buy, very good price but unfortunately no one wants my actual boat. :evil:

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            • TRBenj
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • May 2005
              • 1682

              • NWCT


              #7
              Originally posted by Adrian
              I guess I'm losing something because I just see a carpeted box, the 3 cushions and the back section. I thought the back section could be done with the skin, the foam and a sheet of any kind of plastic to build the curve.
              On the bottom cushions, the problem is not the seat frame, but the seat bases (what the vinyl is stapled to). Those are not easy (or possible) to shape using the skins as a template, according to my upholsterer. You would want to trace someone elses bases to be sure to get the right shape.

              On the back cushion, I dont think a thin piece of plastic will hold its shape or give you enough suppport to staple the vinyl to, especially if it is ever removed from the boat. You could make it out of fiberglass, though.

              The frame would be easy- that doesnt have to be precisely the same as the factory piece. That could be made out of wood and carpeted and work just fine.
              1990 Ski Nautique
              NWCT

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              • Rick
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Mar 2004
                • 1250

                • San Diego, Ca

                • 1962 Keaton Utility. 2000 Ski 1965 Barracuda

                #8
                Sorry My Bad. The 2000's were TSC1s also. I think I would just take pictures of the back seat like the one with the red accents and let the shop make a custom. Probably cheaper than using the skins as he can taper the backrest to the hull, and the skins will be made to meet with the coming pads on the sides.
                Nautiqueless in San Diego

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                • east tx skier
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 1561

                  • Tyler, TX


                  #9
                  Originally posted by TRBenj
                  Originally posted by Adrian
                  I guess I'm losing something because I just see a carpeted box, the 3 cushions and the back section. I thought the back section could be done with the skin, the foam and a sheet of any kind of plastic to build the curve.
                  On the bottom cushions, the problem is not the seat frame, but the seat bases (what the vinyl is stapled to). Those are not easy (or possible) to shape using the skins as a template, according to my upholsterer. You would want to trace someone elses bases to be sure to get the right shape.
                  I've made cushion bases working backwards from the seams with pretty nice results, although I would agree that it would be much easier if you could use someone else's bases as a template. But if that's not an option, it can be done. To get contour, you can make part of the design from wood or HDPE and stack/sandwich several pieces of styrofoam insulation to make the contoured portion. Then (and I know this sounds ridiculous), wrap the sandwiched foam insulation in duck tape. This helps keep it together and also enables you to use some pretty strong glue to attach it without melting the styrofoam. When you stack it, it's very durable and the best part is, it's very light. Glue your carpet to it and you won't be able to tell the difference. Where you need to attach vinyl, you can glue a thin wood or hdpe strip into the styrofoam so you can staple.

                  In my old 93 MC, the entire rear seat frame except for the very bottom of the base, was styrofoam, which made it very easy to remove. When I sold the boat, the original rear seat frame was going strong after 14 years.

                  The seat I built was a jump seat, which I"ve posted pictures of on here in the past.
                  1998 Ski Nautique (Red/Silver Cloud), GT-40, Perfect Pass Stargazer 8.0z (Zbox), Acme #422, Tunable Rudder.

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                  • Adrian
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 175

                    • Spain Europe


                    #10
                    Originally posted by Rick
                    Probably cheaper than using the skins as he can taper the backrest to the hull, and the skins will be made to meet with the coming pads on the sides.
                    Something like this?
                    It looks quite home made, I don't like it very much. What do you think?
                    If I could build something like you did east_tx... you did a very nice work.

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                    • east tx skier
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 1561

                      • Tyler, TX


                      #11
                      That is some really nice work. I appreciate the compliment on my handywork. However, a jump seat strikes me as something much easier than the back seat. Then again, it may just be a matter of scale. My carpentry skills are nothing special, and plywood is pretty inexpensive. So I'd say it's definitely worth trying yourself. If you can get the base looking good, go ahead and see if you can work with the skins.
                      1998 Ski Nautique (Red/Silver Cloud), GT-40, Perfect Pass Stargazer 8.0z (Zbox), Acme #422, Tunable Rudder.

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                      • Adrian
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 175

                        • Spain Europe


                        #12
                        Hi!

                        I'm in the process of building the seat. Nautiqueskins.com are being quite helpful but I need some pics and measurements of the carpeted base "box". Could anyone with a 97 SN take me these pics and measurements?
                        Thanks

                        Measurements:
                        1.- From the end of the backrest to the end of the seat. (pic 1)
                        2.- The height of the carpeted "box" at the end and at the start of the seat (pic 2 )
                        3.- To know the inclination of the front side of the "box", the lenght of the front side of the box. (pic 2)
                        4.- The deepness of the box where the seats rest. (pic 2)

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                        • skijones
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 235

                          • COLUMBUS OH

                          • 1985 2001 1999 Snob

                          #13
                          I have a 99, should be the same seat. I will try to remember to measure tonight and post tomorrow.

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                          • Adrian
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 175

                            • Spain Europe


                            #14
                            Thanks, skijones.
                            I will be very grateful.

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                            • skijones
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 235

                              • COLUMBUS OH

                              • 1985 2001 1999 Snob

                              #15
                              Ok, let me see if I can communicate this properly.

                              #1 is 10" from the front of the seat to the seam in the side panel
                              #2 is 4" at the rear,
                              #3 is 7" at the front
                              #4 os 15 1/2" at the top, 14 1/2" at the bottom.

                              If you need any more pictures, let me know.

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