Proposed No Wake Surfing Zones SML

[gonefishin5555]

Oh boy, you are never going to win the wake war because so many people have the smoke em while you got em mentality. Reality is you can often find the guy with the new Paragon trailering to the boat ramp, upside down on value, paying a 10 year note, livin' for the moment and working until he's dead to pay for his 1 bedroom condo. My money is on morfoot with the 1988 Nautique paying off his home early or taking his upside investment return and retiring gracefully happy. In my opinion, the waterfront home is a much better investment and a better way to the grave. To each his own is guess.

No one is upside down right now especially with a 10 year note. The typical Paragon owner probably got a six figure PPP loan that his business didn't even need and some went back and got a second one. I saw an obviously new wake boat owner last weekend they didnt fit your description at all...they looked like a bunch of boring middle age people without even one wakesurf board in the rack, I'm not sure what they were even doing on the lake. At least crank up your stereo and have a beer and pretend to have a good time. My bet is morfoot retires and joins the lake patrol and spends his days telling everyone to "get off his lawn" couldn't resist.

[GMLIII]

No one is upside down right now especially with a 10 year note. The typical Paragon owner probably got a six figure PPP loan that his business didn't even need and some went back and got a second one. I saw an obviously new wake boat owner last weekend they didnt fit your description at all...they looked like a bunch of boring middle age people without even one wakesurf board in the rack, I'm not sure what they were even doing on the lake. At least crank up your stereo and have a beer and pretend to have a good time.

You are probally right on some of the high end boat purchased used with PPP funds. I know a guy who used the funds to buy a company Gulstream G280 jet recently

[SilentSeven]

gonefishin5555

With some candor, if you are just 'pulling chains' with 'stupid comments on the internet'...then I'm not sure this is the right board for you. I equate that with trolling, something I don't think we need here. What I greatly enjoy about this board is the welcoming community and our ability to have fun dialogs about our mutual love for Nautique boats - I think we all have a responsibility to keep it that way.

My 2 cents.

[Skidave]

All in all, going fast on the water still costs money. Now going slow costs just as much or more!

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[Nautiquehunter]

gonefishin5555

You aren't planning on moving to Georgia are you?

[doug69]

I think it’s important to first recognize that none of these watersports are inherently better or worse. I mostly surf because it’s more social and I have history of tearing tendons that makes the other options difficult. Skiers can say surfing is dumb but I don’t understand why people get up at 6:00am to go and make the same 20 slalom turns at 30mph that they have been making for the last 30 years. But hey, if that’s what’s you enjoy fill your boots. That being said surfers are just as entitled to calm water as anyone else. Can you surf in chop? I guess but it sucks just like it does for skiers and wakeboarders. We are on a small and very busy lake and try not surf before 9:00 am as a courtesy but after that it’s game on. We don’t power turn and keep our music down etc...but you really can’t take away people’s right to be a-holes. The danger here is where will this lead? If you ban surf waves, ballasted wakeboarders are not far behind and I’m sure there are environmentalists salivating at shutting down anything with an engine. I am not a lakefront property owner but this is also a double edged sword. You might not like getting the odd surf wave on your dock but what will happens to demand and value when they shut the lake down to all watersports?

I know I’m only adding another 2 cents to make this an even dollar but can we just agree that we all have the same right to responsibly and lawfully enjoy the water - no matter our preferred watersport?

[GMLIII]

I think it’s important to first recognize that none of these watersports are inherently better or worse. I mostly surf because it’s more social and I have history of tearing tendons that makes the other options difficult. Skiers can say surfing is dumb but I don’t understand why people get up at 6:00am to go and make the same 20 slalom turns at 30mph that they have been making for the last 30 years. But hey, if that’s what’s you enjoy fill your boots. That being said surfers are just as entitled to calm water as anyone else. Can you surf in chop? I guess but it sucks just like it does for skiers and wakeboarders. We are on a small and very busy lake and try not surf before 9:00 am as a courtesy but after that it’s game on. We don’t power turn and keep our music down etc...but you really can’t take away people’s right to be a-holes. The danger here is where will this lead? If you ban surf waves, ballasted wakeboarders are not far behind and I’m sure there are environmentalists salivating at shutting down anything with an engine. I am not a lakefront property owner but this is also a double edged sword. You might not like getting the odd surf wave on your dock but what will happens to demand and value when they shut the lake down to all watersports?

I know I’m only adding another 2 cents to make this an even dollar but can we just agree that we all have the same right to responsibly and lawfully enjoy the water - no matter our preferred watersport?

I agree with you and like you all I do is surf since I had a serious slalom course injury years ago preventing from skiing anymore. I love surfing because it is one of the few watersports I can do but I'm scare the end may be near on waterways around the globe as these bans and restriction increase. No easy answers to the problem at hand. On another note maybe I should take up fishing.

[SilentSeven]

... make the same 20 slalom turns at 30mph that they have been making for the last 30 years.....

hehe...cuz there ain't nothing like that massive blast of acceleration you get when you roll of out the corner, lean away from the boat and hold on with all your might as you get slingshot across the wake...then roll back onto the other edge, slide your weight forward slightly and listen to the hiss of the water as you snap around the buoy and wait once again for that rocket shot back across the wake. The repetition, constant strive for perfection and massive energy needed make it almost zen like.

I've wakeboarded. I've barefoot. I've surfed. But IMO, they still don't get me going like a good set of ripping turns on my ski. I get it, what blows my hair back may not be your thing..it's cool.

OK...whew...that was almost like a w*t dream - back to work.

[scottb7]

"I think it’s important to first recognize that none of these watersports are inherently better or worse...but can we just agree that we all have the same right to responsibly and lawfully enjoy the water - no matter our preferred watersport?"

I don't really understand how you can equalize all water sports when clearly surfing messes up the water (and maybe the shoreline) more then other sports. It took me a while to get my head around it. But like a lot of things, once you get it, it is really simple.

But the problem YOU have as a surfer is that the movement to ban and curtail is your so called wake up call that YOU are wrong.

It is like a lot of things you are right legally but not ethically. (As someone said in post 15).

And the fact that there is a movement to change the law - is again YOUR wake up call.

[XBIGPUN66]

I can say that when we surf we stay 200 ft from shoreline and stay on a line and we do not power turn. Same when we wakeboard with ballast. We are respectful of the other boats as long as they are respectful of us. The issue we run into is the pro tube edition boats coming right in on our line while we are riding whether wakeboarding or surfing. We then wait to see if they go elsewhere or we do. For the most part it works out fine, but we ride on a large lake with many areas to ride. We do see ppl with brand new wake/ surf boats that do not have a clue, but for us we have been doing this for many years and respect "the code".

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[hal2814]

If there’s something that has been pulled behind a boat, I’ve probably ridden it. I primarily surf now because that’s just what most of my crew wants to do and I can do it on a boat big enough to actually bring friends along. I’d be just as happy wakeboarding or slalom skiing or air chairing or even kneeboarding if my knees can still handle it. But if there’s one thing I’ve learned about watersports and the law it’s that we’re all in this together like it or not. If they enact those no surf zones and a disgruntled property owner sees you out there wakeboarding, tubing, or skiing you can bet they’re going to call and report you for surfing in the no surf zone. And even if they’re in the wrong the law is going to roll in and ask you to take it somewhere else.

That all being said I went and re-read the original article and looked up a map of the lake. For that lake, no surf zones aren’t a terrible idea. That lake is a series of very small fingers with barely any main body of water. There are lakes that have use-specific areas. Lake Arlington in DFW for example forbids watersports in the south end of the lake. This wouldn’t be much different.

[Nautiquehunter]

There was never a wake issue or shore line damage no matter how big the boat when we were on Lake Michigan.