Direct drive 216 - difference in year models

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  • TexasA&M
    • Oct 2016
    • 34

    • Ft. Worth


    #16
    Good info! I sent you a PM with more questions about the 216.

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    • TexasA&M
      • Oct 2016
      • 34

      • Ft. Worth


      #17
      http://www.onlyinboards.com/2004-Cor...xas-61038.aspx

      I'm going to look at this one this weekend. Is there anything that I should look at specifically? What are y'alls thoughts on the price? After talking with the guy, it sounds like it's in excellent condition all around. I really like the bimini (it's a custom job) because of the coverage and the height. The stereo is also legit; all top of the line stuff only 2 years old. I'm also a big fan of the teak platform (although this one does look a little dried out; shouldn't take much to make it look new again though).

      Let me know what y'all think!

      - Steve

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      • xlair
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Jul 2003
        • 694

        • Wisconsin


        #18
        That 216 is pretty cool. Well optioned and appears to be good condition but pics are always deceiving. As far as price- seems high, especially this time of year but if it's what you want and the condition warrants it I can see low 30's. My buddy got an 04 216 team for about 29k back 5 years ago. Prices have gone up since then.

        I have a 2001 Pro Air that is in great condition I would let go around $20k for reference.


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        2001 Pro Air Nautique
        GT-40, Stargazer, 1200 lbs auto-ballast

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        • DaveNH
          • Oct 2010
          • 94

          • Concord, NH

          • '63 CC American Skier '98 Sport Nautique

          #19
          The boat really looks nice and to have under 300 hours you'd be getting a very lightly used boat. To me the price is high, boat is 12 years old, even in great shape I might have expected high 20's or something like that. I don't think there is as much demand for the direct drive used boats as compared to the v-drive wake boats, at least that's my impression. Curious if others agree with me on price.

          In terms of what to look at, it looks like it was very well maintained. Can you test drive it? Test ski it? I'd hit every switch to make sure systems work, run the perfect pass, open every hatch to see if they open and close easily. From the pictures and price I'd suspect and hope that you find an extremely well cared for boat in turnkey condition.

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          • Quinner
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Apr 2004
            • 2246

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            #20
            Hah, your jumping threads on me, lol, my response to same question in your other thread below.

            Originally posted by Quinner View Post
            Be sure and bring your ski, all the extra stuff hanging on that tower will effect the wake, also take note how much fuel it has, that also makes a difference in wake.
            Boat looks very clean with low hours but the ask is way high IMO, 3k add for the stereo? What is he going to do change everything out if you don't want it, lol
            Re: the stereo, unless he has the original clarion deck the remote on the dash probably does not work. If original deck ask how you play music from your I-device unless you plan on only using CD's, lol.
            As a comparison, neighbor just picked up an 04' 206 comparably equipped, less hours and as clean for 24k down in NC. Would bet that boat was about 40kish brand new.
            You do want to scroll thru the LED screen on the Tach & Speedo, make sure everything displays correctly, and look at all the other gauges for proper operation, that boat has a Gateway Box controlling all gauges that is NLA, can get $$$ if it is goes bad.

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            • TexasA&M
              • Oct 2016
              • 34

              • Ft. Worth


              #21
              All good info! I'm thinking the same on the price, but I haven't really seen any in the mid $20s that are in this good of shape, have this low of hours, or are optioned well (a lot of poorly installed stereos, lights, etc that I'd have to redo). I think the prices on these bottomed out a few years ago and now they are going up because there just aren't that many out there. That said, the seller told me that he's got a guy that wants to drive down from Michigan to look at the boat next weekend, but that I had first dibs since we've been talking for a while. I can't verify that info, but i don't have any reason to not believe him. I missed out on a nice direct drive a few weeks ago, so I know that there is some demand out there.

              On a similar note, I've got a 2005 Sea Ray right now that is in near perfect condition, and I can't downgrade in that department or I know that I won't be happy with it.

              I'll be test driving and skiing this Sunday. I'll push all of the buttons and open all of the hatches, etc. What all should the tach and speedo readouts tell me? FYI, he told me that the dealer he bought it from replaced the black box when he bought it (2.5 years ago) because the depth finder kept sounding an alarm at random times, so we should be good there. I'm taking the whole family (wife and three young daughters) to see how we all fit on it. It's a little cool out for their liking, but I'll definitely get behind it and see how it feels.

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              • TexasA&M
                • Oct 2016
                • 34

                • Ft. Worth


                #22
                Another question -

                Would there be any reason (or specific option) that I should hold out for a newer model? Or is age just a number in this case since all of the basics are the same, and there is a good chance that some stuff has already been upgraded on these boats since most are 10 years old now?

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                • James
                  • May 2007
                  • 151

                  • Indian Wells, CA


                  #23
                  Unloaded with 1/2 tank of gas I would expect 46 (maybe 47) mph at 5000 rpm wot

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                  • Quinner
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 2246

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                    #24
                    Press the M button on the gauge, each push will roll the display to the next item:
                    tach will be hours, hours fuel remaining, eng temp, oil temp, voltage
                    speedo will be depth, air temp, water temp

                    IMO age is just a number, have seen newer boats that are absolutely used and abused and old boats that look like brand new, condition is much more important then age IMO.

                    Biggest thing to look at on these after overall condition is the condition of the vinyl, you can easily spend 3k+ to re upholster one of these boats, average hours are 50 per year. Would rather get a clean boat with high hours then a beat boat with low hours, these motors should easily provide 3000 hrs of service before needing a rebuild

                    Find the boat you like no matter what year it is, as you can see also, the CC's do hold their value pretty well.

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                    • TexasA&M
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 34

                      • Ft. Worth


                      #25
                      Originally posted by Quinner View Post
                      the CC's do hold their value pretty well.
                      I'm hoping that the same can be said of Sea Ray when I go to sell my current boat!

                      I agree with the older/nicer versus newer/worn out boat thinking. I'm going to crawl all over this thing when I see it and point out anything that doesn't look up to par.



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                      • DaveNH
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 94

                        • Concord, NH

                        • '63 CC American Skier '98 Sport Nautique

                        #26
                        Originally posted by TexasA&M View Post
                        Another question -

                        Would there be any reason (or specific option) that I should hold out for a newer model? Or is age just a number in this case since all of the basics are the same, and there is a good chance that some stuff has already been upgraded on these boats since most are 10 years old now?
                        I think you started your decision in the right way, by saying you wanted to slalom and haul the family, that narrowed things down. I think an '04 216 is the same hull as my '98 Sport, so from a performance point of view the 6 year newer boat is no different, will not ski quite as well as mine due to the added weight of the tower and stereo, etc. The interior and dash on the '04 look much more modern, mine has the old push button breakers. Doesn't mean it's better, just more modern. Now go in the other direction 6 years. You'd be looking at either a Ski 200 open bow or Sport 200 if you wanted a boat with good slalom wake, obviously the Ski 200 would be a far superior wake to the 216, I'm not familiar with the Sport 200 wake. That would be a leap forward in design and huge leap in cost. Does that mean they are better? Not necessarily.

                        All I can suggest is that you look at something newer and see if you like the differences enough to pay for them.

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                        • TexasA&M
                          • Oct 2016
                          • 34

                          • Ft. Worth


                          #27
                          I had been looking at the new 200OB for two years before I finally came to my senses and realized that I needed to be looking at something in the used market. Until I stumbled across that '99 Sport, I didn't realize that Nautique had direct drive crossovers. I think these are more slalom first, wakeboard second whereas the newer 200 Sport is a wakeboard first, slalom second kind of boat.

                          I actually like the look and feel of the mid 2000's boats better than the new ones. I'm not a huge fan of the giant touch screen display and prefer actual gauges. You're right about the '90s boats too... the one I found was in excellent condition, but still felt old because of the dash layout.

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