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Don't understand why people are posting air nautiques. He already has a 230. He needs a Slalom boat not a cross over.
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Don't understand why people are posting air nautiques. He already has a 230. He needs a Slalom boat not a cross over.
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There is a big difference between an Air and a 230. The 230 is an aircraft carrier compared to an Air Nautique. True - a 1990-ish Ski would be the best choice, however you are not giving up much (in terms of wake quality) by moving to an Air Nautique.
Thx for all the input. It looks like I will be looking for a1997-1999 nautique. Now I just need tho convince the CEO. I do have a 1994 comp tam near me in great condition for 7800. I didn't see much feedback on the supra. Is it worth looking at?
The Supra Comp is a great ski boat! For the price IMO you won't find a better boat, yes Nautiques are very nice and the years mentioned have better wakes true but the 10K or less you aren't going to find a Nautique or MC worth looking at that can compete with a Supra. I have seen the Comp you mentioned and wonder why they are asking so low, that should be a 11-13k boat all day.
Now this has nothing to do with my above comment but I am selling my Comp for 9K, only reason I am even thinking about it is because I need an open bow with my large family.
Agree with Jim, there is a big difference in wake of a closed bow TSC vs a Sport/Air not to forget it is twice what his budget is, lol. Regarding the Slalom wake on the Pro Air, 2 of the 4 wakes at slalom speeds are small, will give you that!!
+1 for the Supra Comp. Having owned a Comp and now a Nautique, the build quality is not as nice with the Supra, but this is a second boat and the Comp's wake is superb! Stay '92 or newer. You likely can find a nice SN for your budget, but you may find more Comps out there.
I appreciate the feedback. If I do this, I definitely want a pure slalom boat not a crossover. Unfortunately, I am having a hard time finding a nautique near me. Here is the supra that I mentioned. Thx again.
I appreciate the feedback. If I do this, I definitely want a pure slalom boat not a crossover. Unfortunately, I am having a hard time finding a nautique near me. Here is the supra that I mentioned. Thx again.
I disagree with whoevers friend said the NWZ (90-96) wake is no good. It's still an excellent slalom boat, through I agree the TSC1 is an improvement (and world class, still to this day). Tsc2-3 is even better still.
A buddy had a 87 followed by a 92 supra and I remember them being pretty decent slalom boats. Not as good as the TSC but probably not far off the NWZ. Mastercrafts (91-94 and 95-97 ps190) ski nicely too... I don't particularly care for the way they drive.
I tournament 3-event skied from 1990-2003, born and raised on Master Crafts fell in love with the Nautiques. Bubble back SN's were awesome wakes and the boats didn't seem like stripped out drag race cars. There are some quality boats in the mix, now this is my opinion. Not a fan of the Malibu, The Response was most likely the closest they had but I think there was a more stripped down model. The Supra's quality just didn't seem on par. Older Stars and Stripes Master Crafts were the perfect slalom boat EXCEPT now if you look they tend to have some damage where the hull and deck attach right around where the throttle is but on both sides and most have been beat. The remade Master Crafts, the return of metal flake in blue and red with fuel injection would be on my short list. Those EFI GM's ran better than the first generation GT-40's IMO.
Good finds out there? Bimini Skier, small start up that didn't take off as well as it should have. Solid boat assembled by Centurion sold by 2 guys who designed it in Illinois. American Skiers, there are a couple years there that are rare but great slalom boats very well built.
Tournament boats with closed bows I'd say were more likely used for skiing, open bows were most likely family boats loaded, spilt beer and tubing.
2013 SANTE 210
2011 Sport 200 V
1994 Bimini Skier Pro 190
1986 Master Craft Pro Star 190
What particular year mastercraft are you you referring to when you say remade? Also what year American skiers? I really appreciate all the input. Keep in mind I am currently skiing behind a 230. I just convinced my wife to let me buy that. So value is very important to me. I am 40 and my spine surgeon has told me that I am not going to make it to 50 without some sort of spine fusion. I hope to prove him wrong😀. I am never going to compete, and I probably will only free ski, but I would like to find the best wake possible without blowing to budget through the roof(already did that once). I did find this one that I have considered.
Love the look of the boat. I have a 1999 and am very happy. On that boat link I notice they took off the gunnel vinyl completely. It has a modified speaker setup. Its not original but looks ok. The sides might get beat up a bit with out the pads but not sure. The engine is not a GT40. Based on those thing I feel the price is high. With the GT40 it is worth it. Offer 11000.
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Yeah that boat seems like it's in good shape but the carbureted engine definitely makes it overpriced. You should be able to find a similar boat with a GT40 in it.
2001 Ski Nautique / 2007 SV211 TE (gone but not forgotten)
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