Hole shot is definitely better. Hopefully I will see better gas mileage too. If you have anything other than a team edition for 06', do yourself a favor and get the 645 prop.
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why is everyone whining about the new transmission. PCM is an awesome company and they wouldn't produce junk. Companies have to get out of the box and design new things for the better. This is a solid unit. It backs up the other way but drive it 5 or 6 times and you will be used to it.
Sorry but Dragons comment about why he went to a Malibu are kind of crazy to me but to each their own. That boat is solid.
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Originally posted by skinautiquewhy is everyone whining about the new transmission. PCM is an awesome company and they wouldn't produce junk. Companies have to get out of the box and design new things for the better. This is a solid unit. It backs up the other way but drive it 5 or 6 times and you will be used to it.
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The new tranny is lighter in weight than the old tranny. That makes it inferior for wakeboarding, duh. End of story.
Zwengit, your absolutely right; I got thrown from the get go because my dealer gave me the wrong paperwork which threw me for a loop when I originally posted this thread.
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Sorry guys, glad I have an 05. Reverse direction doesn't effect me too much, except I prefer reverse pulling away from the rider during recovery. I don't care how much testing PCM & CC performed, timeonthewater is the only true test. PCM and/or CC can never estimate or duplicate how much abuse this equipment will take over the lifetime of the product. Best of luck to all, but I will return to the direct drive on the next purchase, as the new PCM v-drive will never have enough time “TOW” for me to be comfortable.
As for Dragon’s issue, I am the only CC owner in our circle and I love our 211 (butt ugly) and all. The rest of our group runs BU’s and I do not have any problem with them at all. Malibu is a good boat, good company, and for the most part, great people to be around. Sounds like most CC owners to me. Give the kid a break; he is an honest and upstanding individual who loves the sport(s) we all love!
IMO CC has really blown the 06-model year. It’s all been said over and over on this forum. Ballast, new v-drive, hull issues, towers; on and on and on. Does anybody really wonder why Mr. McNew is not with CC anymore? IMHO, and it is opinion only, Mr. McNew tried to turn CC into a “MeToo” sea ray or babeliner marketing and development company. Bad move for a niche market, ourselves. CC has always had a history of being slow to change and working through issues carefully, the best they can, for boats that are used (and abused) in so many different ways. That has changed recently, and I believe the “family” has figured that out that big corporate dudes are not the only answer for CC. I commend “family” and sincerely hope the damage will be repaired, but the engineering mistakes of the 06-model year magnitude may become serious issues to overcome.
I don’t consider MC long term opposition for CC since their owners will always follow trends for short term profit gains (walls street types). Malibu has stayed focused on the market for which it is producing & selling and now sells more than anybody else does. If Bu ever gets to the point where the fit and finish and structural durability rival CC, it’s going make it even more difficult for CC to lead instead of follow. How many OLD Bu’s or MC can you find on the used market? I realize Malibu is a very young company (1982), but MC has been around since 1968. Ya just don’t see may 70s model MCs floating around.
BTW anybody have 74-78 Mustang in orange they are willing to part with?
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Originally posted by jvuottoSorry guys, glad I have an 05. Reverse direction doesn't effect me too much, except I prefer reverse pulling away from the rider during recovery. I don't care how much testing PCM & CC performed, timeonthewater is the only true test. PCM and/or CC can never estimate or duplicate how much abuse this equipment will take over the lifetime of the product. Best of luck to all, but I will return to the direct drive on the next purchase, as the new PCM v-drive will never have enough time “TOW” for me to be comfortable.
IMO CC has really blown the 06-model year. It’s all been said over and over on this forum. Ballast, new v-drive, hull issues, towers; on and on and on. That has changed recently, and I believe the “family” has figured that out that big corporate dudes are not the only answer for CC. I commend “family” and sincerely hope the damage will be repaired, but the engineering mistakes of the 06-model year magnitude may become serious issues to overcome.
Also, the 06 line was no/is not blown. The 196 and 206 are quite possibly the finest in recent years, wake boats may be a little off for 06 but the year was far from blown.I don\'t care.
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Originally posted by jvuottoI don't care how much testing PCM & CC performed, timeonthewater is the only true test. PCM and/or CC can never estimate or duplicate how much abuse this equipment will take over the lifetime of the product. Best of luck to all, but I will return to the direct drive on the next purchase, as the new PCM v-drive will never have enough time “TOW” for me to be comfortable.
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I agree with Hollywod. At a boat show this year someone high up told me that its been tested a lot, and of course there's always going to be a mechanical risk when introducing something like this. In fact, they were considering putting it in the 220 b/c they think its that good. But, just in case something did go wrong, they didn't want their newest and "greatest" boat having that bad rep. Instead they put it in the 210 which they knew already had its strong reputation set it stone. If it is a success, I think they plan to put it in the other v-drives... this is CC rolling the dice... everything is going to be new one year...[color=blue][size=2][b]I Nautique, therefore I am.[/b][/size][/color]
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I hear alot about backing up and it pulling this way and that way depending on the prop rotation and that with this one it won't go this way and that one won't go that way, I've never realy had an issue going either direction backing up in my '79 what I do so that it will go either direction is basicly have the rudder straight, bump the throtle into reverse for a second then back to neutral then I turn the wheel more in the direction I want to go then bump the throttle again. I've gone almost the full length of my old channel straight back without a problem. This is my first boat I've owned and had always driven i/o's before and didn't have anyone to show anything about an inboard so it kinda leaves me in the dark why alot of people complain about it and so forth never really thought it was a big deal.
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I am with ya bobchris,
small turns of the wheel combined with a little throttle here and there and it will go where you tell it. It is just easier to the left, especially if you are one to gas it in reverse.I don\'t care.
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Hello ya'll... I'm about to make a decision on the '06 SAN 210 TE. Has anyone experienced any major issues with the hull/engine so far? I've read the thread but if there is anything specific in terms of quality please let me know. I love my '98 AN but looking to upgrade.
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