What other dealers say about the G23

[josemolino]

I just bought a house on Lake Lanier in North Georgia and decided that I was going to get my family (wife and 2 children ages 10 and 11) a new boat. I immediately knew that I wanted an inboard and I like the blunt nose or pickle fork look. I have some experience wake surfing and wake boarding but aside for a lesson or two my family has no experience at all. When I started looking at boats I decided to look at Malibu, Mastercraft, and Nautique. Of the 3 I narrowed my choices to the Nautique G23 and the Malibu MXZ 22 or 24. I love the Nautique and it is by far my favorite but when I told my salesperson from Malibu that I was going to way of the G23 he started telling me these horror stories about Nautique. He said that the G23 with a 450 (what I was/am looking at) will suck my pockets dry at the gas pump. He said that one of his customers has to fill his G23 daily on the weekends and at $5.10 a gallon that could get very expensive. Now I'm not poor by any means but spending upwards of $1000 a month on fuel seems crazy... He also said that even with all the ballast out of the boat it would be too much wake for my kids to learn to wakeboard on. I have to admit that I did notice a wake on the G23 in Beginner Wakeboarding mode but honestly I really didn't/don't know what I was looking at/for. He told me that when I'm surfing and fall, if my wife cuts the throttle immediately the wave will come over the stern and completely swamp the boat soaking everyone inside. I don't know if this is actually true as I didn't try it on the lake... Lastly, he told me that because of the way the boat was shaped my passengers would constantly get sprayed while traveling at speed even with light chop on the water (I ope that makes since). When I went on a test drive, I only noticed the windshield getting sprayed once and that was when we went through our own rollers while traveling slowly. I never got to see it traveling at speed gave the same results because I never got the boat above 35 (plenty fast form me).

So after all this I have doubt about buying the G23, which is why I'm here, so please help me out and tell me if any of you with G23s and the 450 are having any of these problems.

Thanks

Not true.
1.Nice thing about G´s is that you can really tune the wake to your needs. you can flat and wash it for beginners or make it huge for pro´s.
2.The story about the wake swallowing the boat is simply stupid
3.Consumption: the new transmission+bigger propeller+new axle pulls at lower rpm´s so consumption should be reasonable and comparable if not lower than any 23 footer. There are some threads that talk about it in the forum
4. I do not buy the spraying story. The boat is taller than most of the the 23 footer

[Paxdad]

I too am on Lanier and have 2 friends with G23s. Not sure if you will be doing your own maintenance or not given the warranty with a new boat/ G, but if you compare working on a Malibu and accessing critical areas like bilge pump etc the Malibu is not easy to work on. The modular and well thought out aspects of all the Nautiques are second to none. Since you have access to demo a Malibu and Nautique I would encourage you to do so. You will figure it out quickly which manfac is superior.

[thedude]

G23 is a beast. Most solid wake boat I've personally ever been on. Handles a chop and the double up like a semi truck running over a squirrel, no tower shake, no rattles, nothing.

With FULL ballast and people in the boat, if you come off plane from wakeboard speeds and don't bump the throttle or turn slighly as the rooster tail approaches the boat, you can get a little water over the back, maybe a gallon or two. It just drains right into the bilge and a simple turn to the left or right before this happens avoids the problem all together. Yes the boat will use more fuel than a smaller boat, but when you are plowing close to 10,000 lbs of weight through the water, this is to be expected.

The beginner wake is also good, and can be adjusted to be very mellow. The water over the back will full ballast is the only potential flaw, and that is easily avoidable. You may do it once, but never again.

[sja]

There are unprincipled sales people in all fields, including boat sales. I can say that in the Minneapolis area we are really fortunate to have really great CC, Malibu and MC sales people. Last year I was deciding among the bu, X-Star and G23. On separate occasions all 3 local dealers dumped their boats in the lake for demos. They all knew I was going to buy a new boat and who they were competing against. Despite this, none of the sales people ever bad-mouthed the boats or service staff of the other makes. Even after I bought the G23 the sales people from the other shops simply congratulated me on getting a great boat. That's class.

Agree with above. Wake does go over back of boat when fully loaded if stopping to idle suddenly without a slight turn to left or right. Also, despite a much greater freeboard foreward, under certain wind conditions -usually conditions no sane person would be boarding in - (20plus mph side winds) the boat seems a little wetter than my old x-star -probably due to the lack of flare in the bow. As far as beginners, the wake (IMO) is more versitile than the others -very clean down to 16mph (a speed at which that even face plants don't hurt). Having driven and ridden behind top BU, new X-Star and the G, I have not had a single regret choosing the G.

[Kporsch]

I recently bought a 2013 g23 with the 450. I haven't run actual numbers but I would say with fairly good certainty that the G probably burns about 1 gal more per hour than my previous boat (09 Supra 24ssv). If you can afford a $100k boat then a couple extra bucks per hour in gas should be the least of your worried. I have lots of friends with great boats and I've ridden most of the top wakeboats out there ( malibus, mc, supras). A year ago Nautique was not even on my radar. I can tell you after owning the G23 for 6 months there is no other boat I would want. It still impresses me Everytime I take it out. Most of what the dealer told you is a flat out lie. The water over the back can happen if you chop the throttle hard with full ballast. Just ease off the throttle or make a slight turn coming off throttle and no issue (by the way many wakeboats do this when fully ballasted). The storage in the G23 had got to be double what any other boat out there has. You really can't go wrong with either choice but if you want to fall in love with your boat get the G.

[4th ski-doo]

I've spent hours on my friends G 23 and 25.
1. Spray is not existent, maybe at just the right speed in the right wind but it's minimum and if the G does so will the bu
2. Full boat, full ballast no wake came near washing the transom.
3. Wake was large but clean, the big bu gonna be a large wake too
4. They all use a ton of gas surfing! All of them
5. The NSS creates a phenom of a surf wake without tilting the boat, that's just safer.


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[aoblak]

I can tell you that I owned a 2013 24 MXZ with the 550 hp motor for all of last season and decided to sell it to purchase a 2014 G23 with the 450 hp motor. I decided to purchase the 450 over the 550 due to the new 2 to 1 transmission and how much fuel the 550 burned.
My boat is in the final stages of being built so I will not actually have it until next week. I have been using a 2014 G21 with the 409 for the past two weeks and it seems like I haven't used any fuel! I have been really happy with the amount of fuel used.

You can take water of the back of the boat is you pull it off plane fully loaded but with the MXZ if you are surfing (with extra weight) you will take water over the bow due to how low the boat sits in the water.

If you have any more questions then feel free to PM me

[Skidave]

I just want to know if you are looking to adopt (me). I'll earn my keep by shinning the new ride and cleaning the new house!

[eff1fitty]

What a shame. I did my research before I purchased my boat and without a doubt Nautique was and is the best choice. Quality is impeccable. I don't have any experience with the G boats, but when I decide to sell my 230 I will go with another Nautique. Hopefully, it will be a G boat.

[nyryan2001]

http://s1350.photobucket.com/user/Cm...c2b7f.mp4.html

Not sure if this video will post correctly.... I made this about a year ago when a clown over on the Malibu forum was saying Gs were sinking left and right from water coming over the transom.

Put it this way..... You will take 100 gallons of water over the bow of an MXZ for every one gallon over the transom in a G.

[obd666]

I made this about a year ago when a clown over on the Malibu forum was saying Gs were sinking left and right from water coming over the transom.

lol, nice. kinda puts that whole thing to bed ...

[aoblak]

I can also add for a fact my 24 MXZ set up for surfing (factory full, 500 plug and play in each trunk and 1000 bow triangle full). My buddy driving took so water over the bow three times in a row picking me up. When I got into the boat there was over 3" of water covering the floor.
Part of this was his driving

I not bashing any boat just pointing out what you dealer is saying isn't exactly true, I really liked the way the Malibu drove and handled.

[nyryan2001]

Ya not a peep on that issue since I posted that video.

now, if you throw twin 1100s in the trunks over OEM blast of course you will get more water. Come down off your speed slowly and no issues.

[V8 Killer]

Coming down from wakeboard speed we will get a little water (nothing dangerous but still prefer to avoid) in the G23 if you go straight to neutral (with OEM ballasts full). Solution is to come down slow (takes too long for me) or just blip the throttle when the water is about to start coming over the transom, which takes about 1 time to learn when that is. With ballasts at 50% or less, 0 water comes in.

In surf mode with 100% OEM ballasts full no water comes over the transom.

Everything else the Bu dealer told you is just crap from my experiences.

Good luck with your correct decision to get a Nautique!

Dusty

[Josh L.]

I had the same experience with a Malibu dealer. We're in the market to upgrade our 230 and have spent time mostly at the Nautique dealer looking at G23's and the MasterCraft dealer looking at the star and the x-46 (mostly the 46). We decided to just go and check out what Malibu had to offer even though our interest in their boats is minimal. The dealer asked what else we had looked at and before I could even finish he said "If you don't buy a Malibu you're making a $100k mistake." Then proceeded to rattle off his list of reasons why. Fortunately I'm really happy with my current "$100K mistake" and only looking to upgrade for more space. On the flip side our Nautique dealer has nothing but good things to say about the MasterCraft dealer and the MasterCraft boats and the MasterCraft dealer has nothing but good things to say about the Nautique dealer and the boats, specifically the G23. Just found it curious that your experience with the Malibu dealer was similar to mine, maybe it's just a Malibu thing.