Nautiques that surf well port side?

[Steve1]

Hey all,


Wanted to see if you could provide some guidance for me. Currently in a 2006 210 and looking to shift to a boat that surfs better. We ride on the port side. Nothing I do to this boat has helped make a decent port sized wake. That being said i'm looking at a few different boat options. If I keep a price point of around $45k am I going to be able to get any nautique that has a nice surf wake? Can the 220 throw a nice surf wake if properly weighted? By nice I mean a tall, clean, and long pocket.


Would like to stay with nautique if possible, but I'm also considering Centurion and Malibu.


Any help is greatly appreciated.

[wakeskier]

The 220 throws a great surf wake (one of my favorite)
It's really easy to setup and surfabe with almost any reasonable configuration... but if you dial it in... wow!
You'll want a 2007+ for the best Port side wave

[scottb7]

ok, i am confused. i thought on recent boats that due to prop rotation the surf wake is generally better on starboard side. Do i have that mixed up?

also, i would be curious how your 2006 210 was weighted because maybe you still need some tweaking...granted i don't have the same boat but it took us a while to dial ours in. we basically had to have the whole boat tilted over to one side with some bow rise. which we ultimately achieved without any sacs out on the seats or deck. had to move the sub though.

[nyryan2001]

Steve-

Not trying to be a snot but I am sure I could slam your boat to throw a good wake. Either side. In my estimate, 60% of folks who try to surf and get dissapointed dont know how to set up their boats properly. 15% or less IMO really have their boats dialed in to their max capabiity.

this whole prop rotation and surfing thing is overblown. The fricton cause by the prop rotation may favor that side by 200-400lbs. So even if you are sufing the 'bad' side... add a little more weight and you have the same if not better wake.

The only limiting factor to your boat is power since I assume you have the 350. Throw an Acme 2315 on there and thats solved.

describe your set up for wakesurfing....how much weight, where is placed at?

you should have long these lines:

wakeside trunk 1000lbs sac

wakeside tank full

front/center tanks 2/3

gas 1/2- 2/3

under wakeside seats 300-500lbs.

opposite side empty

EVERYTHING heavy goes on the surf side. You should have an obscene lean going on...2/3 of the weight in the rear corner...roughly 10.8-11.6mph. NCRS at 5.

[Steve1]

How far back can you get a clean wave with the 220?

On the 210 i've done a variety of different testing with about 2800 lbs of ballast in various forms. I'd need to remove the hard tanks to get 1000 in the rear locker, but I did put a 750 sack as close back there as possible. Also put another 400 lbs on the port side seat and have done some experimenting with another 280 tube sack in the middle and up front. While I can certainly create a surfable wave on either side I wouldn't call it a good wave. When I first got into surfing I had a Centurion that would throw a waist high wall of water that could be surfed around 15-18' off the back of the boat. That's what i'm hoping to re-create. If I can accomplish that without having to replace the boat that would be great and i'm all ears.

[nyryan2001]

well next time you go out take a bunch of pics and show us what you are working with? would liek to see pics of it all sac'd out...interior and from outside the boat if possible so we can see how much lean you have going on. The lean to your surfside should be into the ridiculous category.... as in having to walk slowly because you'd slip if you werent paying attention.

Put another 1000lbs in that rear corner on top of the seats? Thats when you'll need the 2315.

[OKWAKEBDR]

Acme 2315 will not fit your boat - not even close. You cannot put more than a 13.5" diameter prop on that boat. My '05 had a 13.5 x 14.25 (Acme 1236) and it was a great prop. You need a left hand rotation prop though.

Your hull can make a decent surf wake, but not as good as the newer boats. I can't speak for the 220 you asked about, but an '07+ 210 can be had in your price range and definitely makes a better surf wave.

[wakeskier]

I've never measured how far back the wave is on a 220, but there's plenty of room to move back on forward on it. I tend to like it steeper, but if you put weight up front it will lengthen the wave even further.
I previously had an '03 210 and was never happy with the surf wave, tried many many different configurations, and while it was surfable, I could never get it anywhere close to the 220.
You do have the advantage of prop rotation on you're '06 though (my starboard wave was better than port, so yours should be reversed)

[Neverenough]

220 wake is really sick when weighted right. Search it on the forum. Huge waves but they take a prop and weight. Strip the factory locker tanks add a 1100 and a couple 400s. One under the rear seat and one in the bow with the factory belly tank. 343 will not get it done without a prop.

[scottb7]

I totally agree that it is about lean and weight. I have to disagree on the "343 will not get it done without a prop." We are running 1100 in back corner, 600 under love seat, 3/4 gas tank, 3/4 belly love the wake and have no problems with stock prop. love this set up. no bags sitting around.

If i had 500-600 bucks sitting around for a spare prop I would get one, but totally unnecessary imho.

[Steve1]

Thanks everyone for your input. I'm going to see if I can get some local people I know with 220's to show me what kind of surf wave they can put together. The bigger issue might be finding an '07 in my price point.