Nautique Surf System

[High altitude]

Here is an interesting one...One could simply mount four of these, two on each corner. The trim tab blocks come in two different sizes. They would have very minimal effect on wake when retracted.

http://www.foreandaftmarine.com/VO-QL3841717.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJDnuQ_xsWI

Interesting find. I wonder how far these extend out?

[High altitude]

Sorry I couldn't edit last post for some reason. After actually watching the video, I was able to answer my own question. The video states that these extend "several" centimeters. It might be exactly what is needed. A basic kit costs $740 on Ebay. That would just give you extention on the sides. To include the bottom would be more of course.

I think my plan is to make a prototype using 1/8 inch aluminum and see if a side mount improves my wave. Then I will try side and bottom which would be in line with the Nautique system. They will be static systems to start but if they can do the job then these systems might be the way to go. This product would allow for a very clean install.

As I have learned from my previous experiments, this is a trial an error business. Without some sort of hydrodynamic modeling system, it comes down to some smart guess work and then going for it. I hope a few other people get the itch as well. -Marc

[moto822]

Yes, there is a software update that allows for detailed control from the LINK. You would also need to add the wiring and the two devices to the transom.

I have the 2010 SANTE 230, I am assuming my LINK is 1.0 but not 100%. Does anyone know if this will work? If not that is pretty disappointing they didn't find a way to integrate.

[dfoster]

Based on the installtion instructions http://great-water.com/store/PDF/man...%20install.pdf the tabs extend 35mm.

Based on info on the web, you need to make sure you mount them on a flat surface or shim them properly so that you don't get binding. They show some mounting guides as well. Basically you are going to need 12" of straight edge to work with so that they mount properly. I don't have access to my boat or I would have been out measuring the back to see if they will fit.

If they don't fit, you could use something like the Lenco actuator ( http://www.lencomarine.com/index.php...nd-accessories ) but have them just sliding the interceptor panel out. That would let you build a custom aluminum panel that matches the edge of your hull. Once that design is done, we just need to have templates for each hull shape and you could fit that on any boat. But I agree it would really be trial and error to get it right without someone who really understands fluid flow.

Good news is that there are enough different parts that are designed for real marine use so you at least know they can handle the water, etc.

Marc - how do you plan to hold the side plates in place for testing? Bolt/clamp to swim platform mounts?

[ES]

I have the 2010 SANTE 230, I am assuming my LINK is 1.0 but not 100%. Does anyone know if this will work? If not that is pretty disappointing they didn't find a way to integrate.

Same situation for me as well (2010 210 SANTE), but from what I am reading, we are out of luck. I wonder if the connection with LINK 2 is also needed to adjust steering...with some much drag on one side of the boat, I would assume the system would compensate for it somewhere in the software?

[moto822]

Same situation for me as well (2010 210 SANTE), but from what I am reading, we are out of luck. I wonder if the connection with LINK 2 is also needed to adjust steering...with some much drag on one side of the boat, I would assume the system would compensate for it somewhere in the software?

I just heard from my dealer and he informed me that the current solution is for the 2.0 only. He did inform me that they are aggressively working on a solution for the SANTE 2010/2011. I will post if I hear more.

[scottb7]

It will be interesting to see how far out the nautique system actually protrudes compared to CL system. This picture shows out somewhat...But maybe not fully.

[NautiqueJeff]

That's fully-extended.

[High altitude]

Based on the installtion instructions http://great-water.com/store/PDF/man...%20install.pdf the tabs extend 35mm.

Based on info on the web, you need to make sure you mount them on a flat surface or shim them properly so that you don't get binding. They show some mounting guides as well. Basically you are going to need 12" of straight edge to work with so that they mount properly. I don't have access to my boat or I would have been out measuring the back to see if they will fit.

If they don't fit, you could use something like the Lenco actuator ( http://www.lencomarine.com/index.php...nd-accessories ) but have them just sliding the interceptor panel out. That would let you build a custom aluminum panel that matches the edge of your hull. Once that design is done, we just need to have templates for each hull shape and you could fit that on any boat. But I agree it would really be trial and error to get it right without someone who really understands fluid flow.

Good news is that there are enough different parts that are designed for real marine use so you at least know they can handle the water, etc.

Marc - how do you plan to hold the side plates in place for testing? Bolt/clamp to swim platform mounts?

I'll use some inverted "L" shaped steel thru bolted to my teak swim platform. I'm sure many a person on this forum just cringed, but I'm fine with it. I have at least three years before I upgrade my boat and I'm always looking to make things better on the boat that I have. I have a few other projects I'm working on right now but I will document everything when I start this and share my results. In terms of actually building it it will be much easier than the surf gate I built. (Both the demo and working model)

As for the folks with the older boats w/o Linc 2.0, don't lament. If the parts can be sold by dealers direct to boat owners, the retrofit would be simple. Yes, the wiring would be a manual setup but it would be easy. The real issue is getting a plate prebuilt with the right hull shape. I happen to own a '99 SN so I know none of the designs out there will ever work for me. I have to build something myself or it's just a matter of leaning the boat over with sacs laying all around until I can upgrade to a Sport 200. Luckily, I live on a lake so I have plenty of time for experimentation. -Marc

[High altitude]

It will be interesting to see how far out the nautique system actually protrudes compared to CL system. This picture shows out somewhat...But maybe not fully.

Man, that is so clean!! I still am in awe of the engineers. This seems so much better than surfgate to me. Obviously, the wave is where the proof is but I just like the design so much better. The integration into the Linc system is also cool. I love that you can have preprogrammed ballast, waveplate and now NSS settings for everybody in your crew. I love to cut up and down the wave. I have a friend or two who likes to do tricks. I would prefer a longer wave and the trickers would like a steep one. Combine that with my daughters who are just starting out that want a smaller wave with plently of push and you really have a lot of demands on one boat. (Much less the Goofy/Normal split). Bottom line, this system will be a game changer and once again increase boat sales for Nautique!

[limegreen]

It does not replace the NCRS. Look at the picture on the first page of this thread. You can see both systems in place.

man i am so far behind. i am back in the hydro gate lever technology thinking (**** i dont even own one just trying to process all this so i can figure out which year to slip in.


so is the NCRS a horizontal wake plate in the middle of the hull - same locaiotn as the old hydro gate?

[NautiqueJeff]

Yes, it is. The NCRS is only on the G23 & G25.