Should I expect more out of Nautique dealers?

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  • XH2Oskier
    • Aug 2003
    • 27

    • God's Country (WI)


    #1

    Should I expect more out of Nautique dealers?

    When I originally purchased my boat back in '97, I narrowed my choices down to Nautiques and Mastercrafts. At the time, my choice was swayed by my feelings about the dealerships themselves. I thought the boats were pretty comparable, but the Nautique dealer seemed to be more meticulous, where the Mastercraft dealer was a big outfit that sold many brands. This difference was particularly evident in their winter storage options.

    So I went with the Nautique dealer and one of the first summers after I bought the boat, I was out for the summer recovering from surgery, so I left the boat in storage. The following winter I was transferred across the country and I didn't pick my boat up until the following year. Because I was driving it across country, I asked for a spare to be installed on the trailer, which they did. When I got the boat home and dropped it in the water, it fired up on the first crank. The river level was too high for wakes, but I wanted to get the boat out and make sure everything was OK before I started getting serious that summer. I started to cruise up the river slowly, but the engine cut out after about a minute. I tried to start it up again, but it wouldn't turn over. I called the dealership (who was now half-way across the country) and asked them what they thought could be the problem. They couldn't figure it out and even asked me to crank the boat in my driveway, while they listened on the phone.

    Eventually, I had to take it to a local Correct Craft dealer and have them look at it. After going over the boat for several days, the dealership called me up and asked me if I had any enemies. I told them no and thought it was a weird question until they explained someone had reversed the fuel lines on my boat and they couldn't figure out why anyone would do that. After calling my original dealer up, I found out they accidentally reversed the fuel lines when they performed a recall on the boat while it was in storage. The new dealership (which is no longer a Correct Craft dealer) charged me about $500 to fix their mistake and said I should take it up with the place that did the warranty work. I called that dealership and the best they could offer was to give me the spare tire they installed for free, since they forgot to charge me for it when I picked up the boat.

    When I brought it back to the second dealership for winterization, they told me the boat would be ready for the following season when I picked it up and all I would have to do would be to drop it in the water and fire it up. When I got the boat home, I noticed they had not disconnected the battery and called them and asked if that wasn't part of their procedure. They told me it was not. I did it anyway, so the battery wouldn't die and took it out of the boat and put it on a trickle charger for the winter. Spring rolled around and fearing I might screw something up in the boat, I called the dealer back again to make sure nothing needed to be done on the boat before putting it in the water. They assured me it was ready to go. Fortunately, I checked the boat over again and noticed they removed the drainplug. I guess that's not such a big deal, since everyone should check anyway, but it would be nice if they had mentioned that to me, in case I dropped it in the water like that.

    When that marina stopped dealing with Nautiques, I was forced to drive almost two hours to get my boat serviced at a different certified Nautique dealership. That dealership did excellent work and I never had any problems with them, other than the distance from my home.

    This year, I discovered another marina had recently begun carrying Nautiques and I took my boat in last week for some little maintenance stuff I wanted corrected before I took the boat on a week-long trip out west. The starter was going, so they replaced that and some of the weatherstripping was also replaced. They were very friendly and able to perform everything I needed done, including recarpeting my bunks and they were only 40 minutes from my house. Well, I picked the boat up today and drove it back home. I stopped in town and topped off the tank, because I'm going to take it out tomorrow. When I went to the dash to turn on the ignition, I noticed that it was left on, the key was in the on position, the battery was dead and the boat I dropped off last week with 118 hours now had 195!

    Needless to say, I was more than a little irate, as I had two different people interested in buying the boat, in no small part, because of the low hours. To their credit, the dealership has offered to replace the battery and order a new clock, which they will put 118 hours, plus whatever I put on while it's being shipped, but now I'm spending most of the day carting it out to the dealership and back. Still, it leaves me wondering why I paid first-class dollars on a boat, only to see it get third-rate service at dealerships? Another thing I've noticed with these dealerships is that almost all of them had only been selling and servicing the boats for a fairly short period of time. Is that the case all over the country? If so, why can't Correct Craft keep dealers and why is there so much turnover in my area?

    I was actually looking into getting a new Nautique and wasn't really considering a Malibu, but I've heard a lot of good things about my local Malibu dealer and I know they've been handling the boats for a long time. I'd have to say while I enjoy our boat, I'm pretty frustrated with the whole Nautique ownership experience at this point. Perhaps it's time for a change.
  • NautiqueJeff
    A d m i n i s t r a t o r
    • Mar 2002
    • 16716
    • Lake Norman

    • Mooresville, NC

    • 2025 SAN G23 PNE 1985 Sea Nautique 1980 Twin-Engine Fish Nautique

    #2
    I've never had any probelms like that from my dealer. Luckily, I go to White Lake Marine, and they're the oldest Nautique dealership in the world. They've been around for more than 40 years, and they really know their stuff. I'd be pretty upset if the things you described happened to me.
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    • XH2Oskier
      • Aug 2003
      • 27

      • God's Country (WI)


      #3
      I'm glad you're happy with your dealer Jeff, but I can't say my confidence in this dealership was exactly bolstered by my return trip. I arrive at the dealership and inform them that the boat is with me. I then return to my truck, because I was hot already and the last thing I wanted to do was stand around in their non-air-conditioned building. On my way out, the sales manager calls me over to let me know an open bow Ski Nautique will be coming into the dealership next Tuesday (I told him I wanted to see one in person before I considered ordering one). I told him I'd check it out when I brought my boat back to get the bunks recarpeted, provided the same person who installed my mirror upside down and left my ignition on, which ran up my meter and killed my battery would not be the same person working on my bunks. He then told me it would in fact be someone else. Putting the mirror on upside down is no big deal, but it seems like it was a big red flag for everything else that took place there.

      So I return to my truck and wait for a few minutes while someone brings out the battery. The guy hops into the boat and I'm not really paying attetion to what he's doing, but a few minutes later he comes up to the window and asks me where the battery is located in the boat. Are Sport Nautiques different than other boats in where the battery is located? Mine is in the open bow area, underneath the seat cushions. Is that unusual for Sport Nautiques? Am I being nitpicky here or should I be able to expect that someone who works at a Nautique dealership's service department should know where the battery is located in every boat in their product line?

      He then replaces the battery and comes up to the window and says he's finished. I kind of felt insulted by what he said next. He offered me the option to recharge my old battery and put it back in the boat when I brought it back next week or I could keep the new battery. Hmm.....let me think about that one for almost a second before I decide...... Somehow I have a bad feeling that I'm going to see a charge on my credit card for a new battery on my next statement. He then told me they were next-day airing in the new hour meter and I told him they'd be able to install it on the boat next week then.

      I then got out of the truck to make sure he put the battery in correctly and he asks me if I have the keys, so I can make sure the battery is hooked up correctly. I'm thinking to myself, "Why not just hit the ignition button and the blower button to see if it's working?" Then it occurs to me that this is the same guy who left my ignition on before and no one at the dealership has explained to him exactly how the ignition button works.

      I'm trying to look at this reasonably, but I think I am making a somewhat generous assumption at this point, that the hours on the boat did indeed come from the ignition being left on, instead of someone from the dealership borrowing it for the last week. Someone mentioned in another thread that a dealer can determine the actual hours from the computer on the engine, yet my dealer didn't mention that to me when they offered the fix. Instead, they said they could put 118 hours on a new meter, plus whatever I added while a new meter came in. I have to assume that means they either don't know they can find this information or they did run it on the water and don't want me to know what the actual hours are.

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      • Luke
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Mar 2003
        • 509

        • Des Moines, Iowa


        #4
        Sounds like you've had a rough go of it. I'd be pretty upset if I were you too. Keep it in perspective though, I can guarantee that bad dealers aren’t Nautique specific. I looked at a lot of Bu, MC, and CC dealers and there were several for each company that I wasn’t comfortable buying my boat through.

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        • skinautique
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Jul 2003
          • 1749

          • Colorado


          #5
          I feel horrible for you too. As far as the hours are concerned, they can only be read by a computer if it is a chevy engine. As far as the repairs go, they should have been done right the first time. And to correct their mistakes, they should have atleast offered to service your boat all while you wait. Putting an hour meter in should take no longer than a half hour and putting a battery in is a 5 minute or less job. The batteries are in different locations for different models. The original sports had the battery located under the back seat and others are up in the bow area. If the kid had any common sense, he would have just found it on his own and kept his mouth shut (not making himself look even dumber). How long does it take to search a 20 foot boat for a battery location? Not that long. Are you looking to buy a 206 or something else? If you let me know, I think I can help you find one at a great dealership and not have the hassles. The only thing is that you might have to drive a little further to get the boat. Post back here or PM me. Everyone makes mistakes at some point but the thing is that once you screw up once, learn from it and don't repeat it.

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          • GT40
            • Aug 2003
            • 16

            • Oregon


            #6
            It's unfortunate, but altogether too common. I agree, things could have gone much better for you, but all too often when a service department drops the ball, well, things have a tendency to snowball from there. This could have happened whether it was Nautique or MC or Malibu - the brand makes no difference, it's the people working there that do, for better or worse. I don't have a warranty, so I have the luxury of taking my boat wherever I want to have it serviced. I also make it a rule to do as much of the maintenance myself as possible, to minimize exposure to minimum wage temp employees that were given a crash course on how to change oil. I'm not saying all service departments are run this way, but a lot of them hire questionable people during their peak season (not totally their fault - 75% of the work force isn't worth a d*mn). That combined with the fact that most can't keep up with the workload anyway makes for some very frustrated customers (justified IMO). There are a few out there that do a good job, but from what I hear & read, they are few & far between & have no common denominator as far as brand goes. I'm not saying this is right or wrong, just that this is what we've got & things don't show any sign of getting better.

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            • XH2Oskier
              • Aug 2003
              • 27

              • God's Country (WI)


              #7
              Don't get me wrong, the people at this dealership are friendly, courteous and were very apologetic about the problems, but all that does nothing to make me feel better about their competance when it comes to servicing my boat. They did install the battery while I waited, but I didn't discover the problem until after I spent the better part of an hour driving home and I had to turn around and go back and I should have never even been asked if I would like my old battery back. The boat itself has been excellent and I would buy one again in a heartbeat, but not if it means I have to drive two hours for a dealership I can trust for service.

              The first incident I can chalk up to a fluke mistake, but I still feel like I got the shaft from that dealer to the tune of nearly $500 for their mistake. The treatment at the second dealership I can attribute to a large company that sells alot more than just ski boats and probably knew they weren't going to be carrying Nautiques anymore. The third dealership was great, but they're a haul for me and this last one really has me concerned about the quality of service I'm receiving now and on any future boats I might purchase there.

              I know this problem is not unique to Correct Craft dealers and I've read posts on MBO.com about problems people have had with Malibu dealers. I guess at this point, I should be shopping for the dealer more than the boat and right now I can't see traveling great distances to pay Correct Craft prices and get quality service.

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              • GT40
                • Aug 2003
                • 16

                • Oregon


                #8
                I can't see traveling great distances to pay Correct Craft prices and get quality service
                I think that hits it on the head. Where I live, the one dealer that we have in town deals in RVs/CC/Centurion/Bayliner & something else. I don't know very many people that take their boats there to be serviced - it's that questionable. They are the same way, very friendly & courteous when I come in for something, but I really don't want them working on my boat if you know what I mean. The Malibu dealer is a good hour away (one way) & I know a lot of people that make the drive to have him do the service - he's that good. Even at that, I still try to minimize that exposure to anyone's service bay. Mainly because like I said before, these dealerships are very busy this time of year & no, dumb mistakes shouldn't be made, but that doesn't stop it from happening.

                I really don't know what the answer is to the bigger question/issue at hand, but I think that if it were me I'd just bite the bullet & make the drive to the dealer that you did like. Don't know if that's a realistic option or not, but worth considering I would think. The things we do for our boats....

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                • ccharlton27
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 7

                  • San Antonio, Texas


                  #9
                  Just thought i would throw in my .02 about the dealers............Retarded. I guess its hard to find good help............I called my local dealer last week to find the AIR sticker for the side of my 00 AIR nautique as I wanted the sticker in the chrome or mirrored type finish with a thin white outline.. that I had seen before on other boats on my local lakes.........and I actually had to argue with the dealer about the various colors that the sticker comes in.....or doesn't come in.....as he assured me that the sticker was only made in metallic gray and gold, and he has been a correct craft dealer for blah blah years and I was mistaken, blah blah blah...... and CC has never made the AIR stickers in any other colors, blah blah blah. I asked him to go to his service department and tell me what color the sticker was on the side of the red and white air nautique sitting in his service bay...............as I was there the day before and saw it had the exact mirrored or chrome sticker with a thin white outline that I was looking for............and somehow I magically got disconnected............Hmmmm. 1st rate boat.....inexcusable service. Makes you wonder if they don't even know their own boats??? What will I get when I need real work done?? Ended up buying stickers from a local guy who will replicate the AIR sticker in any color for about 1/2 the price.

                  Moral to this story and every other time I have dealt with a boat dealership..........if you can do the work yourself........do it. Check and check twice on anything the dealer tells you as chances are you are going to get several different answers. And remember they are all retarded. Peace.
                  2000 air nautique; boss tower; etc.

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                  • GT40
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 16

                    • Oregon


                    #10
                    And remember they are all retarded.
                    LOL (with you, not at you)

                    I think that they don't take the time to know the boats. A lot of these dealers are merely that, dealers, not boating enthusiasts that sell boats. There are exceptions - our nearest Malibu dealer is a boating guy & boy does he know his stuff! The local CC dealer is a lot more like what yours is - Darwin Award winners at best. I agree, even if it's under warranty, if you can do it yourself then there's a better chance of it getting done right.

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                    • XH2Oskier
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 27

                      • God's Country (WI)


                      #11
                      Well, I dropped the boat in the water last weekend and I had still had the same problem starting the boat as before. See this link for details- (http://www.planetnautique.com/index....iewtopic&t=137)

                      I was supposed to take the boat back in tomorrow to get the bunks recarpeted and have a new hour meter installed with the correct hours on it. Since this dealership did so much wrong to my boat the first time they worked on it and couldn't even manage to put the mirror back on right side up, I don't think I can trust them to do any further work on the boat. They are closed today, so I'm leaving their service manager a message that I will be picking up my hour meter tomorrow and have another dealership do the remainder of the work. I will cut my losses on the time and money I wasted at this dealership and hope to pay to have the work done correctly at a local Mastercraft dealer, rather than risk more of the same happening with the rest of the work.

                      Like many Nautique owners, I am willing to pay a premium for a product or service that does what it is supposed to when it is supposed to. I will probably be buying a new boat within the next year, but unfortunately, it won't be a Nautique. I love the Nautique I have and would prefer to buy another, but it has become clear for me that a boat is only as good as the dealer who services it. I don't know who that dealer will be yet, but I know who it won't be.

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                      • XH2Oskier
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 27

                        • God's Country (WI)


                        #12
                        I went to pick up the hour meter (the one that was supposed to be sent via next-day air last Thursday) and surprise surprise, it wasn't there. The service manager was pretty quiet when he dealt with me and said it was backordered when he called and they never informed him. He did agree to forward it to the other dealership that would be installing it. They did get my guide floats in, an item that seemed fairly elusive for other dealers to acquire.

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                        • XH2Oskier
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 27

                          • God's Country (WI)


                          #13
                          I called the other dealership this morning to see if the hour meter had arrived and it had not. Since I was given incorrect information twice from the Nautique dealer on the ETA for the hour meter, I figured calling them a third time would be futile. I called Correct Craft this morning and explained my situation as it relates to the hour meter. I spoke with Nicole, who was very polite and understanding. She took down my information and said she would see what she could do to get things squared away for me, so I'm crossing my fingers.

                          The people at the dealership were polite and seemed like nice folks. I really didn't like having to call Correct Craft directly, but I didn't know what else to do. I'm leaving for a week-long ski trip in 11 days and I don't want to be out of ski-shape at the start of it because my boat has been sitting at a dealership waiting for parts. :cry:

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                          • db
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 11



                            #14
                            Dealerships

                            My problems are different but just as frustrating. For the past 8 seasons of dealer service has the boat come back with even 70% of the items corrected. One work item has gone unfixed for three seasons.

                            It has become so frustrating, I have resigned myself to doing the work myself or selling the boat and look for alternatives.

                            Since parts ordering from the local dealer is also problematic, time to say so long C.C.

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