07 SAN 210??? Why this boat vs Malibu V ride??

[2thdoc01]

RE: 07 SAN 210 all the way

Well, first off, Im paying cash for the boat, so money isnt the issue, but bang for the buck is.

The 08 vride is loaded up pretty well for 47500 out the door.

The 07 CC SAN 210 TE is 50,500 OTD plus I need to add a bimini and a cover.

[bkhallpass]

RE: 07 SAN 210 all the way

Check out used prices of Bu and CC. You will see that you will get the extra cash back when you sell the boat. Regardless, it is a lot of money. Test drive them both and buy what you like best. BKH

[skiswm]

RE: 07 SAN 210 all the way

For the price diff I don't think you can go wrong with the C.C. Talk to the dealer tell them the deal you have on the 'bu and see if they'll match it or give you a bimini and cover at cost. Having known people who owned Tige's, MC, and Bu's they all say the same thing. They love everything about the C.C. it handles the best, has the fewest rattles, and just seems to look the best 5-10 years down the line. I think if you look at a lot of the members on this board you'll see they are not "new" owners, they have owned their boats for 5+ yrs. See if the dealer will take you on a test drive, see how they handle. Have you owned other boats? Do you plan to just board behind the boat? You need to factor it all in to figure out what's the best boat for you.

[MikeC]

RE: 07 SAN 210 all the way

Check the vride marketing material - it's their "entry level" boat. It has an old design hull (it's the original Wakesetter hull, when they designed a new hull for the Wakesetter line, they made the old hull into the VRide) and even loaded it's still an entry inboard. I almost bought one, had the deal done, but after we went out for a test drive I was standing on the dock looking at the boat and it just didn't feel like a 47K boat. I went to the CC dealer the next day and purchased a 211 - and I've never regreted that decision for a moment. Either boat would be a good choice, but Correct Craft doesn't make an entry level inboard boat.

[Laptom]

RE: 07 SAN 210 all the way

The base price of the X1 was 2 years back $39,995. Last year it was something like $42,995. I don't know what this year is. If you option it with the least few options you need for wakeboarding (racks, PP, full ballast) you already at the $45,000 milestone.

My opinion is that MC, Malibu and CC makes very good boats. I rode alot of different boats, but still smile everytime I step in a CC. The quality is top, the PCM engines are great and the handling is perfect. Just test-drive a 210 and see if you like it. I think it's not smart to not water test different brands of boats when buying new. It's all personal preferences and you cannot go wrong with a V-ride or a 210.

Good luck!

[SkiTower]

RE: 07 SAN 210 all the way

I can't compare boats (I went straight to CC), but I can add this: You haven't mentioned dealer quality. CC as a whole has the best dealers in the business. Spend that money on a boat and you expect good support during and after the purchase. Read through the dealer praises on this site and it might just sell you. I bought a CC not because it was the best in the business, but because whatever I purchased was coming from Whitelake. Lucky for me they sell the best boats in the business.

[Andy1972]

RE: 07 SAN 210 all the way

I'm glad you thought so 2thdoc, no trouble meant though. Maybe this will belp, I wont draw an analogy between Malibu and a particular lines of Dental materials or equipment, but consider with all the history, innovation, attention to detail, and representation after the sale, Correct Ccraft would be the Adec of the boating world. it's not that Adec or Correct Craft is that much more, it's really that every body else is that much less. The "to do it right" price point is where Adec is, and everybody else sacrifices, confuses you with mirrors, and then tells you they are cheaper. Not completely accurate, but close.

[BigBald]

RE: 07 SAN 210 all the way

If this was the Malibu owner's site....all of these opinions would be opposite. But, I have had experince on several large houseboat trips with both Malibu, Correct Craft, and Tige boats. For about 4 years in a row we had all three types participate on this trip. I should mention that, of course, mine was one of the Correct Craft boats.....and that my boat (99) was the oldest of all of them. And one year I took our old 88' 2001.

Every day (on every trip) the CC owners fired up and took off. And on every trip, one of the other boats had an issue on one of the 4 days we were there. The issues ranged from bilge pump issues, cushions pulled off the snaps, battery wiring issues on both boats, radio issues, one boat couldn't go out on an evening run becuase his running light would not turn on. And there were some other weird issues that were a pain....for instance the malibu had speakers that for some reason were positioned so that folks caught their toes and ripped little chunks of skin off. Just something that was a pain for everyone.

So, the moral to this story is....while we were out skiing and having fun....there was a point where the other boats were sitting idle trying to get something working again....

The other thing I would add is that having a good relationship with the dealer is very very important. So, if you are already having concerns with the Bu dealer.....that might give you reason to pause.

[2thdoc01]

Andy,

Funny you say that, Im building a 4100 sq ft facility right now..but its being equipped with Pelton and Crane equipment. LOL

Well, I have driven a Malibu, Tige and Moomba. The Moomba dealer sells CC also. I didnt want to spend over 45k, and the bu is over that. The SAN 210 seems like a nice boat, and has a lot more features for the money.

The issue I have with the bu dealer is they promised me the boat on Friday, and it didnt get sprayed till monday...so i wont get it for another 2 weeks. Plus the sales guy pulled the whole "we have a contract" line on me. I feel like they wanted to sell me a boat, as they knew I was looking at another that was on the lot somewhere else.

So even if I wanted the CC, how do I get out of the Bu and get my 4700 deposit back?

[dmiracle]

Tell them they broke your contract by not having it when promised. Pull the old "we have a contract" routine back on them.

[tdc_worm]

Re: RE: 07 SAN 210 all the way

Well, first off, Im paying cash for the boat, so money isnt the issue, but bang for the buck is.

The 08 vride is loaded up pretty well for 47500 out the door.

The 07 CC SAN 210 TE is 50,500 OTD plus I need to add a bimini and a cover.

Ask anyone what Malibu's flagship wakeboard boat is and the response will either be the new VLX or LSV, not the V ride.

Ask anyone what CC's flaghisp wakeboard baot is and the response will either be 210 or 230 (and I would argue the 220 also, as I prefer it to the new 210).

That alone smells like a huge resale advantage for the 210. Also factor that the new 210 was designed and introduced in 2007, whereas the V Ride rig has been around since the mid 90's (repackaged as different versions), making the $3000 difference seem like a better deal for the 210.

The 210 has a roomier interior than the V ride.

Correct me if I am wrong, but CC still uses a 5 year bumper to bumper warranty while Malibu's warranty is only 3 years.

For anecdotal evidence, I have a friend w/ an 04 VLX (same hull has the V ride). It is a nice boat and can throw a great wake. His boat w/ 400 hours on it feels like it is going to fall apart. Another friend has an 06 210 w/ 360 hours on it which still feels like new.

and for what its worth, i am not a brand loyalist---that concept completely defeats the point of capitalism and competition and will make sure everyone of us end up in something the same caliber as a bayliner.

[clubmyke]

i think you can do better on the price for the 210...i would also look around for a 08 signature or limited (the team edition has a overpriced stereo). here are a couple of points to consider.

1. the dealership
if you think the bu dealer is screwing you now, then expect to be screwed when you need service.

2. ergonomics
the 210 is a much smaller boat

3. quality
the nautie wins on this one

4.wakes
take your pick. the 210 is a really unique wake (big and bucking)

5.resale
the nautie will have a higher resale.

if you dont want or need a boat now.. wait it out. the economy is bad and people arent lining up to buy wakeboarding boats.

btw, you havent taken delivery of it.. so you should get your money back.

[gride300]

you should be able to get a brand new 210 with the big engine, bimini, upgraded prop, cover, team edition for 49000-50000 out the door no more costs for you besides insurance. it'll hold that value very well too. 3k is well worth your peace of mind knowing you own a nautique. and that's with a tandem trailer(they have to have tandem)

[innov8]

Gride are you talking about a new 07 210?
Not going to get near that price otd on an 08 210 with what you listed.

[tadelfio]

RE: 07 SAN 210 all the way

Hey! I own a Kia.... that's because I own a CC though.