Connecting iPod/MP3 to Clarion XMD-1

[A&B]

Ok guys,

After some research, I couldn't believe that it was impossible to set up an input on the XMD1. I found a schematic and provided the information necessary to make it work. We have been using it since June, and it works like a champ! I will attempt to walk you through the setup as I have done it, and hopefully you can be enjoying lots of tunes...

First off, you will be interfacing to the CD Changer port. This is a goofy 13 PIN DIN, and these connectors are semi-difficult to track down. You can get one for 4.99 plus shipping from:
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/parts/dinconn.html

Then you need to get out your soldering iron, hehe, and follow the schematic... I will try to tell you how this works if you aren't familiar with schematics...

Here is the schematic:

http://myweb.cableone.net/bhedges/auxcablesch.gif

There are lots of ways to go about this, but I picked up a female headphone plug and matched up the tip pin (Right Positive) with Pin 8 on the 13 PIN plug, matched up the inner pin (Left Positive) with Pin 7 on the 13 PIN plug, and then matched up the innner-most pin (Ground) with Pin 6 on the big plug.

Then you need to wire up a simple switch (Single Pole Single Throw) to connect Pins 9 and 5 together. For the switch and the female headphone plug, just hit up your local radio shack and they should help you find what you need.

When you throw the switch on, it forces the head-unit into Accessory mode, and it should display ACCS.

You should now have auxiliary audio input through the new connector. YAY! I don't have to buy a new deck after all!!!

Enjoy!

[NautiqueJeff]

This is GREAT! I'm going to make one of these this week and try it out this weekend. Thanks for the information!

I'm going to attach another picture of the schematic because the one linked to above is being auto-resized by this site, and it isn't as clear as it should be. The one below is actual size, and might appear clearer.

[A&B]

You know, I just had a thought. When I first set this up, I didn't buy the big plug, I just used some hardcore wire and plugged it into the back of the deck strand by strand and was dissapointed when it didn't work. Then I realized that the schematic shows a MALE plug, and I was looking at the back of the deck at a FEMALE plug. So the pins are essentially "reversed", 1 becomes 4, 5 becomes 8, so on and so on. So I re-wired it knowing this and it worked great. That's when I bought the 13 PIN plug, so I could set it up permantly. So if you buy the plug, don't worry, you'll wire it up right, but if you don't, you have a chance of reversing it. Just a tip, just in case.

Have fun!

[Grant_West]

Nice Job. Thanks for the Info.

[gotpwr]

Does anyone know if this will work on the old style Clarion M5475 that came in 2000 model year Nautiques? I'm thinking it will since it is a c-bus compatible receiver. If no one knows for sure, I may have to try this anyway.

[ag4ever]

OK, I just built one.

I used a 13 Pin DIN connector $2.95, a 12' patch caple with stereo plugs $6.95, a 6 'section of two wire data cable $1.00, a micro switch $1.25, and heat shrink tubing $3.10 all sourced from Electronic Parts Outlet ( http://www.epo-houston.com/index.htm ).

I also got an extra DIN connector and switch so i could make a second if I needed to. If the first works fine, I will probably build the second, and give it away if it also works.

All the parts cost less than $18.00 after tax (for two), and took about 30 minutes to build one.

I will let you know if mine works after this weekend.

My fingers are crossed.

[ag4ever]

I just tried my home-made mp3 cable today, and I am happy to say that it works great. The sound is good, and it can be switched on and off at will.

I have some materials to make a second cable if anybody wants them. The wires are only about 3' or so give or take, so they might not be an ideal length, but it would be a good start. Everything shown in the second photo is what you would get, plus a 1' or so length of black heat shrink.

The first PM to me with an address and name gets it, FREEBE - NOTHIN - NADA. (Sorry watching too much monster garage)

When making the connections on the back of the 13 din connector, reverse the pins as shown on the photo above. The photo represents you looking at the front or radio side of the male din connector.

The first photo is the cable I made, note the small toggle switch at the end of the heat shrink. That is how it is switched from ACCS to regular stereo.

[gotpwr]

PM sent!

[A&B]

Nice to see someone else was successful.
Used ours again this weekend and it worked great. I didn’t have my digital camera with me so I don’t have any pic’s of my installation. I drilled holes next to the deck and mounted the switch and jack similar to the new 05 pic’s of the SANTE on the web site. What would be even better is to find a jack that when connected would also connect the two pins the switch does now so anytime you plug it in it would switch to the ACCS mode automatically.

A&B

[NautiqueJeff]

I am still waiting on my cable to arrive, but I found a small black switch today that has a tiny blue LED in it that comes on when the switch is thrown. The blue LED matches the blue of the '03 Clarion remote display perfectly. I'm going to mount that on my dash next to the remote, and use an automotive-type iPod cradle to hold the iPod. I think it is going to work out really well!

[NautiqueJeff]

Built mine today. Will test it when it stops raining.

[NautiqueJeff]

Tested it today, and IT WORKS! This is great! Thanks A&B.

[TURBOURBO]

ok... I'm a wiring idiot.. .any suggestions on how I can get one made for me? I don't even know who I would ask (electritian, etc.) that would do this.

[G-man]

ag4

I am electronically challanged. The diagram shows two rca jacks on the top and it looks like you used a single jack. Is that jack a stereo headphone jack instead of the rca jack?

[Arathranar]

Bad news from me - I tried this on my Clarion (different model) which also had the 13 pin connector on the back and blew the radio up :(

Time to buy a new one. Anyone know a good cheap radio with existing aux in?

[NautiqueJeff]

Which model Clarion was it?

[Arathranar]

On the front it says C116 which may or may note be the model number for the radio. On the bottom it had a different, longer model number. But the bottom panel is currently at home so I don't know what it was.

[Arathranar]

Here's an ebay link to somone selling the same model (as far as I can tell) but with the add-on cd player as well.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38644&item=7926578 170&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

[Arathranar]

Hmm. I found a document that claims Subaru Clarion radios are under warranty for 5 years instead of 3 as of the 2000 model cars. Woohoo...

[Arathranar]

Woohoo! It was just the radio fuse. I have it working again after replacing it.

[Arathranar]

****, no it isn't. Connected the antenna back up and was still getting just noise and the volume control had no effect. Then after being on about 30 seconds, it blew the fuse again. Guess I did fry something, but I can't see what.

I just checked the voltages. Pin 9 is at 12v on my unit. 5 is at ground. So when I plugged my wire with those pins shorted it blew something in the radio and also the car radio fuse.

I might be able to get a replacement for $20 and try again.
NautiqueJeff - where did you get your original pin spec from?

[NautiqueJeff]

I wasn't the one who found the information originally. It was Planetnautique member A&B (http://www.planetnautique.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=profile&mode=viewprofile&u=440).

[TwinTip]

Arathranar, when you try a new fuse, make sure that the switch that toggles between normal input and auxiliary input is not closed (on the schematic it is between pins 5 and 9), else you will be shorting between 12v and ground again (based on the measurements you took between these two pins).

This is probably not the right setup for your radio. Did you just measure these two pins or do you have the actual diagram for the pinout on this connector?

[Arathranar]

Just measured. Wish I had done that before... :cry:

[ag4ever]

Yes I used a stereo plug. The difference between the stereo plug and the rca jack is that the stereo plug has a ground and a left and right channel. You don't need the rca connectors if you are just hooking up to a portable device. You can even get a female stereo jack and mount it in a panel near the radio.

[G-man]

ag4ever
Thanks for the reply, the female stereo jack would be something easy to mount in the glove box.

[TDarrington]

I have a 2004 with a XMD3. The DIN is square but appears to be a 13 pin. Does anyone know if this would still be the same and where I could get a schematic if it is different? I am sorry for being so confused; I am a skier not an electrician. Thanks for your help

Troy

[NautiqueJeff]

The XMD-3 has an Aux in. Find the red wires on the back, and hook up directly to those. You do not need to use the square cd changer connector on yours.

http://www.planetnautique.com/CorrectCraftManuals/xmd3back.jpg

[Luke]

Will this work for any portable MP3 player, or does it have to be an IPOD?

[NautiqueJeff]

Will this work for any portable MP3 player, or does it have to be an IPOD?

Should work for any of them. I've had my laptop hooked up to the XMD-1 using this setup, and it works great.

[Luke]

Cool. Thanks

[tmorefi]

With this new wiring, would it be possible to hook up sirus or xm as well? maybe a 3 way switch, ipod, xm, then radio? would that work?

[NautiqueJeff]

Can't thank you enough for the information you posted re: using an ipod on a Clarion XMD1. I wired this thing in like it was done at the factory. I actually mounted two RCA's inside my glovebox where my radio is. I was very pleased with the way it came out.

Thanks Again!.

Posted by mhunter

[NautiqueJeff]

Looks great! How did you handle the switch that needs to be thrown to put the XMD-1 into Acc mode?

[mhunter]

I have a 03 MC 209 and they give you factory switches on the dash so I used one of the accessory switched. It's just a single position switch mounted on the dash. It even lights up with I turn it on. Again, I can't thank you enough for the info!!!!! P.S. Chris from Mid Ohio says "Hello".

[m3the01]

I also have the clarion XMD-1, im looking at doing this next weekend when i pick the boat up from storage.

Questions, the rca lines for aux do make my life easier but what about the toggle between aux and normal? Where do i connect this toggle if im not suppose to use the 13 pin din connector on the deck?

:?: :?:

I do have a couple extra keys on my keyless, the 'up' and 'down' keys dont do anything so i was thinking of simply use them to flip a relay everytime its pressed.

Any problems in my thoughts?

Please let me know where the toggle between normal and aux is connected on the deck.

thanks again,
Steven

[NautiqueJeff]

Please let me know where the toggle between normal and aux is connected on the deck.

Pins 5 and 9 on the plug.

http://myweb.cableone.net/bhedges/auxcablesch.gif

[m3the01]

Sorry but i thought in an earlier post if we had the XMD-1 we didnt need to purchase the plug just use the two rca aux in's?

From your picture could you show me where?

thanks again,

Steven

[NautiqueJeff]

That's on the XMD-3. The XMD-3 has the RCA inputs. The XMD-1 does not. The XMD-1 is the unit that needs this plug.

[m3the01]

Sorry for the mistake,


thanks for your time and quick reponse,

Steven

[guayuque]

I can't thank Jeff and A&B enough for this thread. Awesome guys. I was looking how to do this hack and you fellows led us to the promised land. Beers on me.

In my Sea Ray I am doing these mods to install a Sirius sat rad. All of it will be in the glove box and the Sirius recepticle permanently mounted so that I can take the Sirius head unit from car to boombox to boat. While I was at it I decided to add the Clarion APX480M Marine amp. The amp has a remote power up, which I infer is simply a relay telling the amp to power up when the XMD1 head unit powers up. But I can't figure out what lead from either the 16-pin bus or the hacked DIN should be connected to the remote power up on the amp.

Any links to schematics, or ideas?

(Thanks again Jeff and A&B for this awesome thread - have to love boaters who say "How can I do this" rather "It can't be done.")

[SANfan]

Does anyone know if this solution will work on the Clarion 5475 that was installed through ~2001? Arathranar - which one did you have? gotpwr - did you try it?

Luke

[Jarabacoa]

I just built the cable following the directions posted and reversing the veiw for the pin positions, but when connected to my head unit the right speakers have hardly any volume and I have to turn the volume up higher than normal for the other speakers. What could be my problem. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

[guayuque]

I completed a test on the work bench and this setup works great. The XMD went right to ACCS when the switch was thrown. The Sirius sounded great.


Jarabacoa: Standard troubleshooting would be using your FM or CD and if volume is fine there then the problem is in a bad connection. If it is isloated to the right channel it is likely you have shorted the right side RCA inputs somehow. Or, the right side output of your source unit may have a problem, but if vlume is down overall I would think a short in the wiring harness you created.

[Jarabacoa]

Thanks for the info. I had actually figured it out just after I posted. I had the right and left wires on the wrong pins and now it works.

[jeffsv211]

Hey guys... I have an XMD-3 with RCA jacks.. but when I connect my MP3 I have no volume.. I read the manual and found the input level settings for Low/Mid/High.. even on High, you have to turn the MP3 volume way up and also crank the XMD-3 volume.. if you turn the MP3 up past half way, it overdrives the XMD-3 causing distortion... any hints on what to do, or has anyone else had this problem... This boats only 1 week old and maybe it's got a problem (Or I suppose it could be operator error too!).. Thanks, Jeff

[NautiqueJeff]

I bet it is just your rear speakers (or whatever you have hooked up to the rear outputs) that's giving a weak signal. Try this...

The following will restore the programming of the rear RCA pre-amp outputs to full frequency range.

1) Press and hold "Title/ADJ" button for two seconds
2) Use "SEARCH" button to scroll through the menu until the display reads "SW LPF".
3) Press the "VOL UP/DOWN" button to engage "REAR" full frequency range audio signal.
4) Once the desired adjustments are completed, press "TITLE/ADJ" button to exit program menu.

WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED THAT IF THE BATTERY SOURCE IS DISCONNECTED FOR MORE THAN 48 HOURS, THE RE-PROGRAMMING IS LOST.

IF A BATTERY IS REMOVED FOR WINTER STORAGE, THE RE-PROGRAMMING WILL BE NECESARY AGAIN IN THE SPRING."

[m3the01]

Last question,

On the back of the xmd-1 there is two sets of rca jacks. I have one set connected to the kicker sx 600.2 and the other set is just sitting there. Whats the second set for, amps are daisy chained usually so im thinking either sub-out or ?


thanks for your time,

Does anyone have a link/manual for the xmd-1 so i dont have to bother anyone?

[jeffsv211]

Thanks Jeff.. I"ll give that a try!

[m3the01]

What type of connector do you use to attach the wires to the 13dinpin connector?

Seems like it would be a tough solder. Is there some sort of metal crimp that i could crimp onto the wire then slide of the din pin?

thanks,
Steven

[NautiqueJeff]

I just soldered mine. It is a bit tough to get it done, but it is possible.

[Flux]

I am gonna do it the easy no solder way, found a cable on ebay for 20 bucks (13 pin c-net or clarion), just have to cut, strip, & take a meter and find the corresponding leads to the pins. A bit more expensive, but I have zero soldering skills, especially for trying to get tiny leads on those pins.

Still waiting for the cable though, the seller slacked on me, BASTARD!!

[m3the01]

Now this may sound stupid but are the other connectors used for anything? I wouldnt mind cutting them off to provide greater access when soldering.


Thanks,
Steven

[tmorefi]

My cable has a red, black, and yellow wire. I assume the black is ground but which is left and right? Thanks..

[baddad]

I hope to build this wire set up, but what side of the male connector is the schematic showing? the side that plugs into the radio, or the side that I will be soldering the wires to. Please advise, as this plug was hard to come by, and I don't want to ruin my radio.
THANKS!

[Flux]

Schematic Shows the side that plugs into radio, the side with the actual pins, not the solder point side.

[m3the01]

Looking online it shows the top portion of the headphone jack is actually the left, middle is right and bottom is ground....

Can anyone verify this?

[ag4ever]

As I remember, that is correct.

Does not sound right at first, but it is.

[Flux]

I have an extra whip for doing this mod if anyone needs it. It's pre-wired, so no having to solder to the pins, all the wires are colored and I put mine together in about an hour using the other half of this. You will probably need to solder the wires together as they are very light gauge. Mine worked without a problem.

If you want it, PM me and make a paypal donation to the site and I will send it to you.

[baddad]

pm sent! I've tried every means I can think of and still can't solder these little @!#$%^* pins! My connector experienced complete melt down. And then I had my own melt down! :evil:

[airwear]

Anyone have any luck doing this trick on a Clarion 5475? I tried it this past weekend with no success. I am quite sure I made the right connections. The unit would not go into "ACCS" mode.

[kingbriana]

I also tried it with a 5475 with no luck. I believe the wiring schematic is different than the one posted here for XMD1. I bagged it and bought a XMD3 for $139. I will install it this weekend.

Does anyone know if the wiring harness for the 5475 will work for the XMD3?

[Jarabacoa]

If I remember correctly, the 2002 X-Star has this head unit and my cable worked over the weekend.

[geonal]

Ok guys,

After some research, I couldn't believe that it was impossible to set up an input on the XMD1. I found a schematic and provided the information necessary to make it work. We have been using it since June, and it works like a champ! I will attempt to walk you through the setup as I have done it, and hopefully you can be enjoying lots of tunes...

First off, you will be interfacing to the CD Changer port. This is a goofy 13 PIN DIN, and these connectors are semi-difficult to track down. You can get one for 4.99 plus shipping from:
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/parts/dinconn.html

Then you need to get out your soldering iron, hehe, and follow the schematic... I will try to tell you how this works if you aren't familiar with schematics...

Here is the schematic:

http://myweb.cableone.net/bhedges/auxcablesch.gif

There are lots of ways to go about this, but I picked up a female headphone plug and matched up the tip pin (Right Positive) with Pin 8 on the 13 PIN plug, matched up the inner pin (Left Positive) with Pin 7 on the 13 PIN plug, and then matched up the innner-most pin (Ground) with Pin 6 on the big plug.

Then you need to wire up a simple switch (Single Pole Single Throw) to connect Pins 9 and 5 together. For the switch and the female headphone plug, just hit up your local radio shack and they should help you find what you need.

When you throw the switch on, it forces the head-unit into Accessory mode, and it should display ACCS.

You should now have auxiliary audio input through the new connector. YAY! I don't have to buy a new deck after all!!!

Enjoy!

[geonal]

After making these modifications do you loose the use of your CD changer?

[whitlecj]

Anybody here willing to make me on of these things? I am electrically challenged but I will gladly pay someone to make me one. Please pm me if interested.

[Socbum]

Ok guys,

After some research, I couldn't believe that it was impossible to set up an input on the XMD1. I found a schematic and provided the information necessary to make it work. We have been using it since June, and it works like a champ! I will attempt to walk you through the setup as I have done it, and hopefully you can be enjoying lots of tunes...

First off, you will be interfacing to the CD Changer port. This is a goofy 13 PIN DIN, and these connectors are semi-difficult to track down. You can get one for 4.99 plus shipping from:
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/parts/dinconn.html

Then you need to get out your soldering iron, hehe, and follow the schematic... I will try to tell you how this works if you aren't familiar with schematics...

Here is the schematic:

http://myweb.cableone.net/bhedges/auxcablesch.gif

There are lots of ways to go about this, but I picked up a female headphone plug and matched up the tip pin (Right Positive) with Pin 8 on the 13 PIN plug, matched up the inner pin (Left Positive) with Pin 7 on the 13 PIN plug, and then matched up the innner-most pin (Ground) with Pin 6 on the big plug.

Then you need to wire up a simple switch (Single Pole Single Throw) to connect Pins 9 and 5 together. For the switch and the female headphone plug, just hit up your local radio shack and they should help you find what you need.

When you throw the switch on, it forces the head-unit into Accessory mode, and it should display ACCS.

You should now have auxiliary audio input through the new connector. YAY! I don't have to buy a new deck after all!!!

Enjoy!

Before putting her away for the winter I wanted to add this little mod to my boat.
I was not to excited about trying to solder the little wires so I did a little search for the 13 pin din. I found a place online that provides a pre wired 13 pin din with 6 feet of of wire for $6.95. All of the wires are connected and they provide a color coded chart. The company is called BUX COMM and is located in Evington VA.
http://www.packetradio.com/CABLESetc.htm

Scroll down about half way through the page to find the wired 13 pin din.

I also wanted a lighted switch that I could mount instead of having it inline with the cable. I tried four different lighted switches, 2 red & 2 blue. The first switch I found at Radio Shack was a rocker switch with a red led dot. The other three I found in automotive stores -- 2 toggles and another rocker. I wanted to have a blue led switch that matched the blue lights on the Clarion.

The lighted switches required a power source so I had to find a hot wire on the 13 pin din that I could use for the led. I used volt meter and found that pin 2 provided enough power for the led.

2 of the switches had STSP on the package the other 2 switches did not. I played with all 4 switches and was only able to get the light to work on the switches that were labled STSP. The other 2 switches were not labled STSP and I was unalble to get the LED and the ACCS throw to work. I'm not an electircal engineer so I'm not going to offer why they did not work. Maybe someone else can help! Unfortunately the STSP switches have red LED's so I was unable to use the blue led switches :( .

My camera is broken so I can't take any pictures of the install, but I got it in with no issues!

I purchased two of the cables to play around and I have enough extra wire to make another if anybody else is interested.

First person to PM me will get a custom wire with the switch of your choice (inline or dash mountable) no charge/free. You just need to let me know what kind of switch you would like.

[m3the01]

Wow very happy, i was just going to ask if it would be a problem removing pins 1-2-3-4 for easier access for soldering.

I did the soldering last year, not new either to soldering but i had a difficult time doing this even with a grounded multitip soldering iron. Finally got it done, however it would sometime shortout evne though i did cover each pin afterwords with heatshrink.


Now im buying the pre-wired version:)

Steven

[jroyal]

I removed the pins from the plastic to solder soldered them with no trouble. I found a pair of needle nose pliers to be best to remove the pins. Reseating them is easy. It does make the soldering alot easier.

Mine has been working for over a year and no problems.

[ssaxet]

Ok, my kids were not stoked at all about my tunes.... I have made the cable and they are now totally stoked about being able to use the Iaudio and Ipod.... and Im left wondering why I would do this and have to listen to alot of rap crap (IMHO)... at least the sirrius will be direct feed now... oh, and thanks to who ever went to the trouble to post this mod.... its cool...

[gatlingun45]

The the female plug the the ipod plugs into how do you know which is right positve and which is left positive.

[EchoLodge]

Would an 01 Nautique have the xmd1? I think my buddies boat has the xmd1 but it looked like it had an 8 pin. Boat is 250 miles away and I would like to build one of these to use next time I go out.

[jroyal]

My 2001 has an XMD-1. If it looks like this, it will work

[EchoLodge]

Thanks... I guess I will order the parts and build one!

[97SN]

Arathranar,

The Dual MXD60 has aux input and sells for $150 at Crutchfield.

[patoloco]

Well, I went ahead a bought a 13pin din cable with open wires on the other end, I'm going to try and figure out the right setup for the 5475....as best I can tell, its definitly not the same as the XMD1. I've found pinnout's on the internet that match the diagram above...but cannot find anything on the 5475.

If somone has found the correct pinnout for the 5475, please post it up.

[ffmedic74]

Can someone provide a schematic on how to hook up a single headphone style cable to the 13pin connector? My goal would be to have a cable that will plug directly into my ipod. Thanks

[patoloco]

OK, so while messing around with the tester, I decided to do some basic analysis of the CD changer interface for the 5475 in hopes of doing the MP3 hookup thing. I have a 13 pin cable I purchased on line plugged into the unit with all wires color coded to the pins.

I originally tried to do the hookup as perscribed on the XMD1, but had no luch as others have mentioned. I measured the voltage on each cable with the Radio powered but OFF and with the Radio powered but ON and playing. I can't figure out which two wires should be shorted to put it into ACC/CD Changer Mode.

Can anything be determined from voltage readings alone?

A= Radio Powered (clock running) but turned OFF
B= Radio Powerd AND turned ON, and playing

Pin#
1.) A(4.99) B(4.99)
2.) A(4.99) B(5.10)
3.) A(0.00) B(0.00)
4.) A(4.98) B(5.09)
5.) A(0.50) B(12.2)
6.) A(0.03) B(0.09)
7.) A(0.00) B(0.00)
8.) A(0.00) B(0.00)
9.) A(0.00) B(0.00)
10.) A(12.35)B(12.21)
11.) A(0.03) B(0.09)
12.) A(0.03) B(0.09)
13.) A(0.00) B(0.00)

Obviously the biggest differences are increased voltage on a couple and a major increase on #5. So obviously 5 and 10 are power wires of some sort. And I'm guessing all of the 0's are L&R inputs, and grounds.

So all you electricians/stereo experts, what do you think?

[airwear]

It would be ideal if someone could take the same readings on the XMD1.

[patoloco]

It would be ideal if someone could take the same readings on the XMD1.

Your right, that would actually be really helpful, at least narrow it down to the two wires.

Through my research on other similar attempts, some 13pin cd changers utilize a 10Kohm resistor between between two of wires to act as a "pull-up resistor".

But without knowing exactly which two wires, you still risk frying your radio.

[EchoLodge]

Do I need to buy a mail or female din?

[patoloco]

I bought the pre-wired 13 pin male plug listed earlier in the post ..came with color coding for wires and plugged it into the back of the unit.

[EchoLodge]

Thanks...

[EchoLodge]

Just finished mine. I have to wait a few weeks to see if it works!

[ffmedic74]

I just finished my project and it DID NOT work. UGGGH! On the first page of this thread that shows the schematic, I should look at it from the view where I would make my solder connections correct???? My switch is hooked up to pins 5 and 9. When I go to throw the switch however nothing happens. I even tried to look at the schematic in reverse and the radio immediately went dead. To get the radio to work again I would have to turn my switch off and turn the boat back off and on again. My radio is an XMD1. Any help is appreciated.

[EchoLodge]

The schematic shows a MALE plug. Thats what an earlier post states. That is the way I wired mine. Don't know if it works though. If you made your solder connections via the schematic then your connections are all wrong. I bought the wired cable and had to test every wire to lable. I tripled checked before I soldered my connections. But.... have not been able to try it yet.

[ffmedic74]

I found that if that you can use a pair of needle nose pliers to pull each pin out as needed and then simply push them in. Does the schematic show the back side view of the male plug since this is how I wired it and it did nothing. I reversed it and it killed the radio and had to "reboot" the boat with the switched turned off.

[EchoLodge]

According to FLUX. Schematic Shows the side that plugs into radio, the side with the actual pins, not the solder point side.

[wingnut]

Received my 13 pin with 6 foot cable yesterday. Stupid question regarding the stereo headphone cable, what color is left and what is right.
Wish me luck

[EchoLodge]

50% chance of getting it right! I figured "who cares if left and right are crossed". You could always test with an mp3 player and a speaker I guess.

[wingnut]

You're right. I said it was a stupid question.

[EchoLodge]

I tried reading through all the posts. I think the first tip is right. Its just a guess. Like I said 50% chance of getting it right. I was more worried about the diagram. I hope I got it right and it shows the male side of the plug with the actual pins. Will have to wait till next week to see if I am right.

[wingnut]

Put mine together last night and it worked!!! Buying the 13 pin with the 6 foot cable was the best decision I made, thank you for that tip.

[tmb]

I am an electrical idiot. Is anyone willing to build one and sell it to me? This would make life so much easier than burning 20 cd's for the boat. Thanks in advance.

[EchoLodge]

Let me see how mine works and I will get back to you. I would charge you parts and shipping... No labor.

[EchoLodge]

http://www.commparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=3&products_id=107424

http://www.commparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=19&products_id=108563

http://www.commparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=3&products_id=107415&osCsid=bac04fef34a3b8f40b6cc56a868416c8

[tmb]

echo
Did yours end up working?

[EchoLodge]

I will not know until July 6th when I pass through Parker on my way to Powell. I might send it up with my buddy who is going up to Parker over father's day. It is for his boat. I am 99% sure it will! I will let you know if it does and can build you one. It took about 10 mins to put together.

Eric

[EchoLodge]

Yea baby... Great mod. Thanks guys.

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[Erik]

I tried making this for the second time, this weekend. And in 7 pages of this thread, nobody has taken photos of the process and documented the project. So that is exactly what I tried to do. Unfortunatley the schematic shown on page 1 is almost completely reversed on a later response by the original poster. As was my first attempt at this project. So in attempt #2 I ruined my toggle switch and burned a hole in my leg. Add to that fact that this was the first time I had ever worked with a sautering gun, and could not for the life of me create good contact points for the sauter, I was unsuccessful twice. And - kind of furious because I took hi-res photos of the whole **** thing.

So - there has to be someone out there that has created this thing and then later upgraded their stereo. I would so enormously appreciate it if someone would sell me their old adapter. I'll even throw in a free The2001.com product of your choice if you want. I hate to say it, especially as someone who has disassembled and rebuilt an entire Land Rover, and completed & documented many related wakeboarding projects (sliders, Ski Nautique mods, other stero projects), I am afraid that this is above my head - yet I still really need that wire.

If anyone can help - again - I would be very very appreciative. And I will do my best to make it worth your time.

Please PM me if you can help out.

Thanks,
Erik

[EchoLodge]

I am making one for tmb. He ordered the parts I used and is having them mailed to me. I will take pics and post a step by step for you. It should be done by next week if the parts get to me before I go back to the river.

[JTB530]

Will this work for the XMD2? I was asked if I could add Ipod hookups to an xmd2 and haven't been able to find any info about this unit. I haven't had a chance to look at the backside of the radio so I'm not sure what type of inputs it has. What is the difference between it and the xmd1? Any info is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Jason

[Proud2BeCC]

JTB530

I have completed my cable for the XMD1 and it works great. As far as the difference between the XMD1 and the XMD2, I believe the XMD2 does not have the CD changer input. The lack of the CD changer input would not allow for an IPod hook up. I have attached the manual for the XMD1/XMD2.

Owner's Manual (http://www.planetnautique.com/CorrectCraftManuals/Clarion.pdf)

[AirVega]

Does anyone have current Links for the DIN connector with patch cord, RCA jacks and Switch they would use? I have a 2002 SAN, so the stereo is mounted behind the driver. I am thinking of adding RCAs in the same panel below the stereo for an IPOD.

Any recommendations?

Thanks

[EchoLodge]

1/8 mini jack instead of rca. The din plug is nice as it is prewired.

[Erik]

Previous post is an attached word doc with an embedded screenshot, containing a bmp of the rendered page, with an image of the prewired DIN side of this thing. Only if you do some sleuthing and zoom the screenshot, then work back from the title of the page, can you find the real product.

Link to the product:
http://www.commparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=115920

When it comes, I will document and post photos of the process so that nobody has to slam their head against the wall as many times as I have had to regarding this. It is spectacularly frustrating.

I have never seen a thread like this before. 8 pages and nobody has photographed or detailed the process.

[EchoLodge]

Lets try to make it 9 pages... I took pics of my last build. I built it for a PN member who asked for help. He shipped me the parts and I will be sending it out to him after I verify that it works. One should not really complain about lack of a how to build though. We all have busy lives. Attached are the pics I took. When I get a chance I can do a step by step for you.

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[Erik]

Lets try to make it 9 pages... I took pics of my last build. I built it for a PN member who asked for help. He shipped me the parts and I will be sending it out to him after I verify that it works. One should not really complain about lack of a how to build though. We all have busy lives. Attached are the pics I took. When I get a chance I can do a step by step for you.

You are the MAN! You have no idea how much I appreciate this - and I assume everyone else will too. We ordered 3 of those prewired DIN's today. I am making a few of these and I will use your photos. Thanks very much - I really appreciate it.

I am sorry if I came off bitchy before. I swear I am a decent person. I run The2001.com, and on that site alone I have documented a pretty involved ballast tank enclosure project, a stereo installation project (how to put speakers in your stereo-less 2001) a set of slider plans, and 2 tower installations so that people know exactly what to expect. I also write product reviews for wakeboarder.com, blog on my own consumer-centric wakeboarding site, and previous to this, documented the full process of turning a hard top Land Rover into a convertible one http://www.d-90.com/mod/sw2st/index.htm
pics - http://www.d-90.com/mod/sw2st/sw2sw_pics.htm

I document everything so that people after me can do it, using my instructions. It dosent take that much time or work and people appreciate the help, almost always. I am just suprised that this thread got to 8 pages before someone (you) stepped up and photographed the project..

-Erik

[EchoLodge]

No hard feelings. I love the internet for doing projects. I have benefited from many sites like this and others for “how to dos”. Just yesterday I needed to look up how to change the oil on a friend’s waverunner. I was able to find step by step as well as a 16mb movie. Pretty awesome someone took the time. I tried giving the links on my first post but they seemed to not work after I copied and pasted them. I then took screen shots and put in a word doc. I built the harness for the PN member while I was on my lunch break in my car so the pics are not the best. Since you seem to have experience doing write ups I will leave it to you to make a quality link.

Eric

[EchoLodge]

Darn.... Still not to 9 pages yet!

[EchoLodge]

TMB I made your harness and shipped last Tuesday!

[tmb]

I haven't received it yet so I'm sure it will be here soon. Thanks again.

Echo is the man!!

[AirVega]

I wired it using the photos from Echo's post and it worked perfect.

Thanks for this awesome thread.

[Russ]

Read this, it is great! Does anyone know if you can cut into the existing cable for the 6 disc changer, install the switch and hook to the inputs, but still use the 6 disc changer when the switch is set to the normal position? The boat owner would like to not use the use of the changer. Any one done this? Thanks Russ

[EchoLodge]

I don't think so because if you throw the switch the head unit would be looking for input from both the CD changer and the rca jacks from the mod. You could always make a harness and just swap out dins when you wanted to use your mp3 player or cd changer.

[Mikeski]

Russ,

It's quite likely that you can build a splice harness with a set of RCA's and switch to toggle between the changer and RCA's. You might need to use a DPST switch to kill the changer power as well as make the aux connection?

[zbucky]

OK, so hasn't anyone figured out how to make this work with a 5475? Patoloco, what ever happened to your work? Can anyone help? If not, can someone suggest a cheap headunit to replace the 5475 so I can have my i-pod work

[patoloco]

I never got it to work. I ended up frying my radio when I accidently let two of the wrong wires cross.

I bought a new Clarion M455 off ebay that has an rca line input. About $120 I believe for a new one.

It works pretty well for my needs, the ipod plugs in via the rca inputs...although the input volume level is a little weak and you have to turn up the volume slightly higher than with a CD, I think it sounds pretty good.

[elmog]

If anyone ends up wanting to sell one of these, shoot me a PM. Thx!

[aztaco]

As a new forum member and a new 2002 SAN owner I am planning my winter projects. Auxiliary inputs for my ipod are high on the priority list. After gladly finding this thread by doing a search I have been on the hunt for parts. All former posts have been quite helpful in the process. While hunting for parts I stumbled upon these at Crutchfields:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-e8xyXkGpnM4/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=50900&I=113CAC1AX
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-e8xyXkGpnM4/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=50900&I=113CAC2AX
Has anybody tried one of these? My initial concern is that Kenwood most likely uses a different wiring schematic then Clarion for the 13 pin DIN. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
-David

[ag4ever]

One problem I see with those is the lack of a switch. The clarion uses a pin grounded out to indicate a CD changer signal request. If that pin is not grunded it won't work.

[EchoLodge]

Someone will have to be the tester and give them a try!

[highvoltage]

I may have figured out a good way to use your existing cd changer AND this mod together and all WITHOUT the manual switch !!!

I figure if you get a switching 3.5mm stereo jack and a mini 12 volt relay, it might work. I am REAL busy nowadays but I have a XMA1 I got off e-bay for $20 bucks and I wanted to play my mp3 or xm radio through it when I came accross this site on GOOGLE. Anywho, I ordered all the parts and I will see if it works on mine and let you all know ASAP....remember, I am real busy but knowledge is nothing if you can't spread it around.

So, here is my theory: When you plug your 3.5mm plug into the switched jack, the AUX mode will be initiated by the 12 volt relay that will be wired to 1 of the contacts on the back of the jack. The other contact on the jack will remove the 12 volts from the cd changer, thus droping the pin 5 to 9 short. When my relay realizes that I have droped my cd changer, it will close contacts A and B which will be wired to pin 5 and 9 on the din connector. I am tapping the din plug, not cuting it so no need to do anything other than simply PLUG AND PLAY your favorite stereo media into the jack !!! I may need a diode here and there to prevent back -feed of a signal or voltage but I will test it all.

Am I talking too much jargon ? I have read the posts and know that most all of you are pretty smart when refering to electronics here so just let me know if I went over someones head.

I thought to myself a bit on why don't I just leave the cd changer powered up during the AUX plug in and just switch the audio outputs from the changer to the AUX jack.....I just thought it might be best to have it powered down while not in use to save wear and tear and heat on the changer itself. Also, I think some of the other wires in the 13 pin din cable may be used for track and remote signals so why have all that running through the wires when I don't need it ???

Like I said before, I have NOT tried this but I will and I will let you all know how it goes and provide PICS. If anyone forsees a problem with this theory, please speak up now....I just dreamed it up and have not thought of every possible mistake I may have involved.

Great site and very excellent topic !!!

I love boats and music but I only have a 84 Glasstream bass boat....junker that I am re-doing this winter.....anyway, I am rambling now.....

peace

oops....I forgot to include the swithing jack and relay info:

here:

jack - A PCB mounting stereo 35mm jack socket with two switched contacts which break when the plug is inserted. Socket can also be chassis mounted through 6mm diameter hole.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=1196&doy=18m11&C=SEO&U=strat1 5

relay - A fully enclosed relay capable of carrying 5A and having pins for direct PCB mounting or for use with socket available separately. The relay is available with double-pole or 4-pole changeover contacts, with 6Vdc, 12Vdc or 24Vdc coils.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=2536&criteria=RELAY&doy=18m11

[dees]

K, I know this is an old, old thread , but was wondering if someone could make me one of these for my 03 SAN . Or if you have one in working condition you want to get rid of. I will pay you or make a contribution to the site. Thanks.

[NautiqueJeff]

This is one of my favorite thread ever on this site. Glad to see it back at the top.

[dees]

So Can I get some love from someone. Please!!!!

[axlissel]

I also need one. Please!!!
thx

[axlissel]

dees, any luck?
axl

[dees]

Yeah I guy over at wake world sent me one. Have yet to install it, more then likely it will be installed tomorrow. So I will let you know if it worked.

[DougPhillips]

I will be looking for one also. Anyone?

[2002SuperAir]

i would love one also

[DougPhillips]

I noticed my marina has a Clarion IPOD adapter kit including charging. Did not have time to check what models it is for.

[DougPhillips]

Here is the Clarion site for some radio sets. CeNET and C-BUS addapter radios heads.

What are these? What is the XMD1? Don't have a manual.

http://www.clarion.com/us/en/products/2007/audio/accessories/index.html

[maxg1989]

I made one of these harness last week and i couldnt believe that it acually work like everyone said it would. I used a prewired 13 pind din cable and a fancy gold 3.5mm headphone jack a single pole single throw switch and some telephone wire followed the wire diagrams and every thing worked perfect

[DougPhillips]

Here is the poop from Clarion.

In 2003 the radios were switched to the CeNET protocol for software. The connectors are 16 pin rectangular. Clarion makes and adapter kit for these radios that allow total control and display for the Ipod.

Prior to that the radios inluding the XMD1 worked on a C-Bus protocol using the 13 pin round DIN connector. There is no commercial adapter. The best is what is discussed here.

What would be great for the time crunched people here is if we all pushed Jeff into getting a dozen or so of these made up and he could sell them on this site, for profit going to support the site.

What about it Jeff?

[DougPhillips]

Can something be rigged to also power the Ipod?

How long are people making the wire? How far to the switch and is the switch mounted somewhere? Are people just stuffing this into the storage box?

The Clarion dowloads do not seem to work. I get a corrupted file.

[2002SuperAir]

im looking for the connections for my super air nautique 2002 xmd1 please pm me if you have one

[DougPhillips]

I am interested in getting one of these rigged up.

Does anyone have an extra cable or are you interested in making one up for me?

Did anyone figure out if it could also power the Ipod?

[78LS2]

Here is the poop from Clarion.

In 2003 the radios were switched to the CeNET protocol for software. The connectors are 16 pin rectangular. Clarion makes and adapter kit for these radios that allow total control and display for the Ipod.

Prior to that the radios inluding the XMD1 worked on a C-Bus protocol using the 13 pin round DIN connector. There is no commercial adapter. The best is what is discussed here.

What would be great for the time crunched people here is if we all pushed Jeff into getting a dozen or so of these made up and he could sell them on this site, for profit going to support the site.

What about it Jeff?


So you are saying that the XMD1 on my '03 has the rectangular connector, and the 13 pin connector talked about in this thread will not work? I hope not, because I ordered my parts before getting to your post!

[DougPhillips]

If you have a XMD1 unit then it has a 13 pin connector and the instructions here will work.

I a still looking for someone to make a cable for me. Anypne?

[78LS2]

I am making mine tomorrow when the parts show up. if all goes well, and you want to order a 2nd set of parts I'd be happy to make you one.

[DougPhillips]

Great, keep me advised.

[NautiqueJeff]

This is a great thread. Glad to see it back on top. This method worked flawlessly for me on my 2003 SAN with the XMD1

[78LS2]

Will do. I actually won't be able to test the cable until this weekend, but I will use my fancy new mobile internet and post up the results. I am sure that it will work well, as the mod is pretty basic.

[78LS2]

Got my parts today... and the 13 DIN connector did not come with a schematic. Thus, I have no clue which color goes to which pin. Anybody out there know? P L E A S E????!!!!!!

[78LS2]

Nevermind...I got them all squared away, and my connector is done. I will try it out on Saturday, and if all is well I'll let you know Doug.

[78LS2]

Works like a charm!

[DougPhillips]

PM sent

[78LS2]

OK guys, here is a quick "how-to" so you can make your own cable. Sorry for the lack of pictures.

1.) order the following parts from www.buxcomm.com
1 x 1313 pin DIN male plug wired to all 13 pins Cable is 6 FT-. (13D) =$9.95
1 x SW551 S.P.S.T. ON OFF toggle switch. (SW551) = $1.45
1 x 3535ST 6 CABLE with 3.5mm or 1 8 STEREO PHONE PLUGS (3535ST) = $1.95

2.) cut a slit into the free end of the DIN connector. Peel it open, and expose all the wires.

3.) Find the Green, White, Grey, Purple, and Blue wires.
4.) Strip these wires.
5.) Connect the green wire to one of the switch terminals
6.) Connect the white wire to the other swith terminal
7.) cut one end of 3535ST off.
8.) Slit the now free end of 3535ST, and peel it back. Inside you will see two shielded wires, and one non-shielded.
9.) Strip the ends of the shieled wire.
10.) connect one of the stripped wires to the grey wire from the DIN connector.
11.) connect the other stripped wire to the purple wire from the din connector.
12.) connect the non-shielded wire to the blue wire from the din connector.
13.) Wrap it all up in electrical tape, plug both ends in and voila.

I found it easiest to melt the insulation off the wires, as they were all so thin. Just use a lighter, let it burn, then use your fingernails to peel the burned stuff off and expose the wire.

use solder on the switch. you can get away without it by using connectors availalbe at any parts store.

Use heat shrink at all wire junctions.

Enjoy

[Flyerace]

Another successful install! Thanks!

I'm going to see if this will work on my car stereo.

[erikwillke]

do you have to have a changer installed for this mod to work?

[erikwillke]

got the switch to work preliminarily but I need to do some soldering. will submit pictures when I'm done.

[erikwillke]

got it to work! I"ll post pictures later.

I didn't want to wait for the connector to come in so I simply soldered the wires to the board in the HU. my pictures are blurry as my camera does not take good closeup pictures.

[chasin7]

I've done a lot of searching on this and some say it does work for the Clarion M5675 and some say it doesn't. Whats the consensus here? Anyone ever get this to work with their Clarion M5675 unit?

[Dennett]

I just made one of these connectors today, it works great!

[molis728]

Is there anyone who has an extra ipod cable for the xmd1, or anyone who would be willing to make one and sell? I am not an electronic guy...

[rugdog65]

I am definatley not a tech guy either...I have an 06 220and it has aux and the plugs under it but we have bought several different cords and cant make it work? anybody make something like this I can buy-plug and play?

[Dooogs]

If someone will make me one of these Ipod switch/connector things I will pay and be most grateful, thanks.

[EchoLodge]

Building another one and the company still has the parts.

http://www.buxcomm.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=shopping_cart

[jordancox83]

you guys should sell this i would buy it

[rweilbacher]

i just ordered the parts but have a couple questions and cant remeber if they were answered in one of the eleven pages on this thread. You guys are mounting the toggle switch inside the glove box. Are you also drilling a hole for the ipod wire? didnt see any pics with the ipod connection hanging out from a hole. I think a cleaner look would be to mount the RCA jacks next to the toggle and buy the RCA adaptor, any thoughts or suggestions. Finally, does either of the above mentioned methods charge the idpod?
thanks
bobby

[Mikeski]

Rugdog,
You just need to go through the menu and turn the function on, your unit already has the capability. I am guessing you have a CMD-5? This cable won't help you. Alternatively you can buy the CCAIPOD and connect the IPOD directly to the deck and use your deck and remotes to control the IPOD, this is what I do today. I have both AUX-IN and IPOD direct inputs via the CCAIPOD adapter to my CMD-5.

I just got a question PMd to me if I would make one of these cables for an old XMD1. Today there are so many far superior options to the XMD1, I would not waste a second trying to update the interface of one of these outdated decks. The oldest deck I would consider running would be the XMD3 and then it would need to be almost free. You can get a CMD5 or M475 capable of playing MP3 CDs with CDNET capable of direct IPOD input for around $100. MP3 CDs are a great option on a boat, a full days music on one disk. When I take my nephews riding I tell them to burn a MP3 CD and bring what they want to hear. At the end of the day I keep the disk and add it to my music collection. This works out great for everybody.

[trdehmer]

I just read this post, this XMD1 is on my boat, so I can't exactly rewire the thing easily and this mod should do me fine for awhile and I'd assume my wired remote would still work? My question is, is it possible to still use my 6 disc CD changer as well with this mod - maybe with the use of a Y-Adaptor?

I have a Clarion XMD1 AM/FM CD Player with CD Changer Control. It is hooked up to a Clarion DC625 6 Disc CD Changer. I have 6 speakers so I know one output from the head unit is gong through a Marine Audio MAA120-2 Amplifier to power 4 of the speakers I believe. The two speakers in the cuddy must be powered by the head unit itself. These are on my boat so it also has a Clarion Wired Remote model M201RCS.

[83ski2001]

i bought the cable that Jroyal made. but i can not figure out how to connect my ipod. i am not dumb, just stumped. it has the 13 pin connector with a set of rca cables and a pos/neg wire coming out of it. i know that the pos/neg is for the switch to throw it into acc mode. but the rca cables is where i dont know what to do. is there a wire that they made for ipod that had rca outputs on them? i see that some of you made yours with a headphone jack instead of rca cables. could you steer me in the right direction. i did pay for this plug and would rather not take it apart and messing with it. there has to be a way that it plugs into the ipod, or he would not have sold it to me, thanks.

[NautiqueJeff]

No reason to take it apart. Just go buy an RCA to mini headphone plug adapter. You can get them anywhere, and they are very inexpensive.

[83ski2001]

the rca that is there are male plugs. i do have a headphone to rca but that is also male plugs on that too. so is there like a double female plug that i can adapt it to

[83ski2001]

would this work?

http://www.audiogear.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?key=Adpt-RcfRcf2&preadd=action

[NautiqueJeff]

You got it. That's exactly what you need.

[83ski2001]

i actually ended up getting this. it was .98 cents and i took the 12 dollar plug i bought back to wal mart. thanks jeff

http://www.cablewholesale.com/specs/35mm-to-rca/30s1-01300.htm

[NautiqueJeff]

Ah, even better! I might order a couple of those myself.

[83ski2001]

and you cant beat it for .98 cents, and 1.58 to ship it to me, thanks for the help

[Moondoggy]

i made the cable following the directions and when i flip the on/off switch the headunit lcd display disappears and i get no sound. is there a chance i plugged the 13 pin connecter in the back of the radio wrong? any suggestions?

[Trickworm]

I found a pre-made cable on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200470803383 but it doesn't have the AUX switch support. Is there a way to turn the AUX input "on" from the head unit?

[Woodmister]

I'm pretty new to all this, but I i'm into car audio, so i think i have a decent grasp.

I just ordered my 13 pin 6ft cable off that site, it's gone up a bit, but well worth it if I can get a static-free audio input.

Since we have lots of Clarion XMD-1 experts here, I was wondering if you could also explain what the other pair of RCA cables are.. Is it another pre-out? The people that installed my stero did some stupid move by splitting the 1 Pair of RCA cables they ran to 4 channels with 2 "y" cables. Makes me mad that they did that if indeed this other RCA is a pre-out. Please let me know if you know, it doesn't tell in the manual.
(uploaded picture to show you)

Also, is there enough current running through 13 pin cable to add a toggle switch with a small LED indicator light? I mean, instead of just a dummy single pull single throw relay, i'd like one that actually shows if it's one.. I guess just for giggles, but is there enough power going through those cables?

Also, Trickworm. Sense you found that ready made cable, if you were to buy it, i wonder if you couldn't just open up the cable say half way down, and find the 2 cables you use for the toggle and insert a toggle by tapping those lines. It does say that it has all 13 lines connected, so it's bound to have the 5 pin and 9 pin cable there, the ones you need for the toggle switch.


Anyways, I appreciate any help, and I hope i've been clear. Thanks, Danny

[jkvvlv]

An easy upgrade for IPOD tunes on the water.........

Thanks!


OK guys, here is a quick "how-to" so you can make your own cable. Sorry for the lack of pictures.

1.) order the following parts from www.buxcomm.com
1 x 1313 pin DIN male plug wired to all 13 pins Cable is 6 FT-. (13D) =$9.95
1 x SW551 S.P.S.T. ON OFF toggle switch. (SW551) = $1.45
1 x 3535ST 6 CABLE with 3.5mm or 1 8 STEREO PHONE PLUGS (3535ST) = $1.95

2.) cut a slit into the free end of the DIN connector. Peel it open, and expose all the wires.

3.) Find the Green, White, Grey, Purple, and Blue wires.
4.) Strip these wires.
5.) Connect the green wire to one of the switch terminals
6.) Connect the white wire to the other swith terminal
7.) cut one end of 3535ST off.
8.) Slit the now free end of 3535ST, and peel it back. Inside you will see two shielded wires, and one non-shielded.
9.) Strip the ends of the shieled wire.
10.) connect one of the stripped wires to the grey wire from the DIN connector.
11.) connect the other stripped wire to the purple wire from the din connector.
12.) connect the non-shielded wire to the blue wire from the din connector.
13.) Wrap it all up in electrical tape, plug both ends in and voila.

I found it easiest to melt the insulation off the wires, as they were all so thin. Just use a lighter, let it burn, then use your fingernails to peel the burned stuff off and expose the wire.

use solder on the switch. you can get away without it by using connectors availalbe at any parts store.

Use heat shrink at all wire junctions.

Enjoy

[Woodmister]

Well, got the parts this weekend for building the Ipod cable, so I'll being testing it as soon as I get off work.

- Found out after reading lots of info about the Clarion XMD-1 that indeed, it does have 2 rca outputs..

- Found out that running the 1 set of RCA cables and splitting it into 4 channels isn't /horrible/ but it's not exactly the best thing, you lose maybe 1db and /can/ get a little bit of distortion through the wires, as well as losing the option of fading. I will probably run another set of RCAs just to do it correctly.

Just gotta say thanks for all that you guys did to get this figured out.. Thanks!

[Woodmister]

Works like a charm!

Wired it all up and bingo, works beautifully.

Sorta a pain with such few stands of wire through my audio cable, but got it done.

Also ran another pair of RCA's.. So the sound in the boat is coming together nicely.

Thanks again for your instructions!

If any needs helps, feel free to PM me and I'd love to answer any questions.

[jankedm]

I used the following method and the unit went dead. Not sure what went wrong. Any ideas? Turned it off/on and it worked again, but I'm chicken to try again. Re-checked and the connections are correct based on this:

"Originally Posted by 78LS2
OK guys, here is a quick "how-to" so you can make your own cable. Sorry for the lack of pictures.

1.) order the following parts from www.buxcomm.com
1 x 1313 pin DIN male plug wired to all 13 pins Cable is 6 FT-. (13D) =$9.95
1 x SW551 S.P.S.T. ON OFF toggle switch. (SW551) = $1.45
1 x 3535ST 6 CABLE with 3.5mm or 1 8 STEREO PHONE PLUGS (3535ST) = $1.95

2.) cut a slit into the free end of the DIN connector. Peel it open, and expose all the wires.

3.) Find the Green, White, Grey, Purple, and Blue wires.
4.) Strip these wires.
5.) Connect the green wire to one of the switch terminals
6.) Connect the white wire to the other swith terminal
7.) cut one end of 3535ST off.
8.) Slit the now free end of 3535ST, and peel it back. Inside you will see two shielded wires, and one non-shielded.
9.) Strip the ends of the shieled wire.
10.) connect one of the stripped wires to the grey wire from the DIN connector.
11.) connect the other stripped wire to the purple wire from the din connector.
12.) connect the non-shielded wire to the blue wire from the din connector.
13.) Wrap it all up in electrical tape, plug both ends in and voila.

I found it easiest to melt the insulation off the wires, as they were all so thin. Just use a lighter, let it burn, then use your fingernails to peel the burned stuff off and expose the wire.

use solder on the switch. you can get away without it by using connectors availalbe at any parts store.

Use heat shrink at all wire junctions.

Enjoy"

[jankedm]

Must have blown a fuse for some reason. I tried it again and it worked perfectly. All is good now.

[Texan1554]

OK guys, here is a quick "how-to" so you can make your own cable. Sorry for the lack of pictures.

1.) order the following parts from www.buxcomm.com
1 x 1313 pin DIN male plug wired to all 13 pins Cable is 6 FT-. (13D) =$9.95
1 x SW551 S.P.S.T. ON OFF toggle switch. (SW551) = $1.45
1 x 3535ST 6 CABLE with 3.5mm or 1 8 STEREO PHONE PLUGS (3535ST) = $1.95

2.) cut a slit into the free end of the DIN connector. Peel it open, and expose all the wires.

3.) Find the Green, White, Grey, Purple, and Blue wires.
4.) Strip these wires.
5.) Connect the green wire to one of the switch terminals
6.) Connect the white wire to the other swith terminal
7.) cut one end of 3535ST off.
8.) Slit the now free end of 3535ST, and peel it back. Inside you will see two shielded wires, and one non-shielded.
9.) Strip the ends of the shieled wire.
10.) connect one of the stripped wires to the grey wire from the DIN connector.
11.) connect the other stripped wire to the purple wire from the din connector.
12.) connect the non-shielded wire to the blue wire from the din connector.
13.) Wrap it all up in electrical tape, plug both ends in and voila.

I found it easiest to melt the insulation off the wires, as they were all so thin. Just use a lighter, let it burn, then use your fingernails to peel the burned stuff off and expose the wire.

use solder on the switch. you can get away without it by using connectors availalbe at any parts store.

Use heat shrink at all wire junctions.

Enjoy

Alright, trying to put off a head unit upgrade by putting this little jewel together. Don't have a soldering gun so trying to go with the connectors as stated here.

Looking at the suggested switch and trying to find the right connection... would a simple female fit over the terminal? http://bylerrivet.com/products/item-details.aspx?cat=634&pid=3156

any other options or opinions?

the suggested switch:
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq27/Texan1554/switch.jpg

[EchoLodge]

any 12 volt on off switch will work. You could buy one with male post and crimp female ends on it.

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[Texan1554]

Got it up and running just by striping a little extra wire, taking a few extra wraps around the terminals and heat wrapped em then taped it up. Working fine for now. Will probably fail at some point but then I'll have an excuse to upgrade. :D

[EchoLodge]

The other option is to just join the wires as who plays cds anymore?

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[DolomaticDangles]

Sorry to bump an old topic, but I have an XMD-2 in my boat. Their is an RCA cord coming out of the back (13 pin). If I make a cord like this will it work?

[filmshoot]

if anyone is willing to build one of these adapters for me, please send me a PM.

I will pay you for it.
or, if you are not using yours anymore, I'll buy it.

thanks

[Texan1554]

if anyone is willing to build one of these adapters for me, please send me a PM.

I will pay you for it.
or, if you are not using yours anymore, I'll buy it.

thanks

Hey man, putting this thing together is stupid simple. I am in no way electrically literate and mine works just fine. I did not solder mine. Just follow the directions posted up here, the link to the required hardware etc...

[filmshoot]

:) well when you put it like that... yeah, I read it again, and realized that it's just splicing wires.

I only read the first method on the first page, where someone was soldering to the pins..and that was looking a bit too tedious..

but this newer updated method looks really clean and easy.

thanks for the word of encouragement.

Order has been placed for all necessary parts: albeit at a bit higher prices than what they used to be.

[jordancox83]

DO you have to put the switch in or can you just put a wire from pin 5 to 9. All that is doing is putting it on ipod all the time right?

[Texan1554]

Pretty sure you need the switch for grounding but I may be way wrong.

[Socbum]

The switch is put in so you can change the head unit from regular radio/CD to accessory mode (head unit will display ACCS). If you hard wire the pins than your head unit will always be in accessory mode.

[filmshoot]

these bloody wires are freeken 24awg!!! I can't find a crimp connector anywhere that is that small... crap, I guess i'm going to have to go buy a soldering gun after all.

[filmshoot]

got a hand held battery powered soldering gun, and watched a few youtube DIY's- looks easier than I thought to solder.

[C.J.]

before I dive in and read this whole thread, i was going to ask, what if I only want to play an ipod all the time and nothing else? we have a 01 SAN and I just need to wire in a chord to play ipod, even if it is on that setting 24/7

[EchoLodge]

Then you can take the switch out of the equation and wire the two ends together.

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[C.J.]

I have an 01 SAN, only use an ipod so dont need a switch, so can I order the peice in the link below, follow the directions and be good to go or will I need an aux adapter on the end of the piece im ordering? http://www.packetradio.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=15&zenid=de6jovc8nnuep99o4b93bjfdq4

am i missing anything? I already have plenty of auxilarry cords

[EchoLodge]

Yes. You would just connect the green and white wires together instead of connecting them to the switch posts.

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[C.J.]

so the deck is the radio? and do i need to remove it or can I reach behind it to plug the 13 pin plug in? also echo the green and white wires your referring to are both coming from the 13 pin plug correct?

[EchoLodge]

so the deck is the radio? and do i need to remove it or can I reach behind it to plug the 13 pin plug in? also echo the green and white wires your referring to are both coming from the 13 pin plug correct?

The 13 pin plug is on the back side of the HU. The plug was designed for a cd changer. By connecting the green and white wires from the plug the HU sees a changer and allows the input from the left and right channels that you wire in using a mini stereo jack.

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[C.J.]

I hooked everything up correct, didnt need the switch since we will only be using an ipod so I connected the green and white wires, soder all of them plug it in and it only show the time on the radio, disconnect the battery and turn boat back on and nothing shows up on radio? is it a problem if our CD player doesnt work? what should I do?

[EchoLodge]

I hooked everything up correct, didnt need the switch since we will only be using an ipod so I connected the green and white wires, soder all of them plug it in and it only show the time on the radio, disconnect the battery and turn boat back on and nothing shows up on radio? is it a problem if our CD player doesnt work? what should I do?

Make sure the 9 and 5 pins are the ones you connected. Also, take off the pin to make sure that the fm stereo works. This way you know the head unit is ok. What do you mean by cd player doesn't work? With a cd in nothing shows on the screen?

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[C.J.]

Stereo works, I tried it this morning and it showed 100 on the screen, I used the driver control for the radio near the dash and it somehow turned it to AUX, Sounds great, thanks Echo for the late night help, this has got to be one of the best forums I have ever been on. also if anyone is interested im going to Ziptie the crap out of my connections to secure them behind the radio and maybe even tie my aux chord around something in there, that way if some girl has the ipod and pulls the chord out it wont rip out all of your work

[EchoLodge]

Too cool. Glad you were able to get it to work. The radios I have dealt with did not have the separate controller. Not sure if that had anything to do with it but who cares. It works!

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