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  • TG3
    • May 2020
    • 23

    • Tyler, Texas

    • 1997 Air Nautique

    #1

    High Idle Problem

    1997 Sport Nautique with GT40 Engine

    I’m having some trouble with a high idle condition. About a month ago i put new plugs in due to a miss, i have learned that particular condition and know the signs. New plugs and it was running smooth again. While changing the plugs I checked the base timing, it was off a little so got that spot on.

    I set the idle to 650 and was having a some surging, did some research and found that it was likely the idle air control valve. I replaced it, and for good measure replaced the throttle position sensor, since they were both likely original to the boat so 30 years old.

    The boat now idles smoothly at 650, most of the time. A week ago we spent 7 hours pulling the tube with kids from our church youth group. Off and on the boat would not return to 650 at idle, but hover around 1000. The pattern went on all day.

    Yesterday we went to the lake and the boat idled smooth at 650 when we put the boat in, then a few minutes later as we idled out of the marina it was at 1000. We spent some time pulling the kids on the wake board and tube, 650 idle each time. Then we ran about 25 or 30 mph for 15 or so minutes back to the marina, and when I pulled back to idle, it was 1000 again. Shut the boat off while backing in the trailer then it idled nicely at 650 again when I loaded it.

    Any ideas of where to start looking to correct the random high idle?
  • SilentSeven
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 2241

    • Bellevue WA

    • 2004 Nautique 206

    #2
    I set the idle to 650
    How did you do this? The idle speed is ECU controlled.

    Also, the manual states that the idle speed (650 to 700 RPM) is measured when the boat is in gear. Is your 1K idle in gear or out of gear - can't tell from your post.
    2004 206 Air Nautique Limited - Black with Vapor Blue (family style)
    1997 Masters Edition Nautique - Zephyr Green - gone (amazing ski wake)
    1982 Mastercraft Powerslot - gone (a primitive but wonderful beast)
    Bellevue WA

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    • SilentSeven
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 2241

      • Bellevue WA

      • 2004 Nautique 206

      #3
      This may also help. GT40 service manual

      GT-40 Service Manual.pdf
      2004 206 Air Nautique Limited - Black with Vapor Blue (family style)
      1997 Masters Edition Nautique - Zephyr Green - gone (amazing ski wake)
      1982 Mastercraft Powerslot - gone (a primitive but wonderful beast)
      Bellevue WA

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      • TG3
        • May 2020
        • 23

        • Tyler, Texas

        • 1997 Air Nautique

        #4
        I set the idle speed while in gear by adjusting the quick connect at on the throttle cable where it attaches to the arm under the throttle plate. I loosened the jam nut and turned the connector until it idled correctly then retightened the jam nut.

        The ECU can't control the idle speed since it is a cable operated throttle correct? there is nothing else to open/close the throttle plate in the throttle body besides the cable, no "fly by wire" so to speak.

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        • jpwhit
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Aug 2016
          • 688

          • Cary, NC

          • 1998 Ski Nautique 2012 Nautique 200 2014 MasterCraft X25 . 2019 MasterCraft ProStar

          #5
          That is not correct and is the cause of your issue. There is a separate idle control valve (IAC) that allows the computer to control idle.

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          • TG3
            • May 2020
            • 23

            • Tyler, Texas

            • 1997 Air Nautique

            #6
            Oh ok, thank you!

            So does my throttle cable connection need to be set where the throttle plate is fully closed so that the IAC can then do all the work?

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            • SilentSeven
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 2241

              • Bellevue WA

              • 2004 Nautique 206

              #7
              Yes.
              2004 206 Air Nautique Limited - Black with Vapor Blue (family style)
              1997 Masters Edition Nautique - Zephyr Green - gone (amazing ski wake)
              1982 Mastercraft Powerslot - gone (a primitive but wonderful beast)
              Bellevue WA

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              • TG3
                • May 2020
                • 23

                • Tyler, Texas

                • 1997 Air Nautique

                #8
                I will get that fixed this weekend!

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                • TG3
                  • May 2020
                  • 23

                  • Tyler, Texas

                  • 1997 Air Nautique

                  #9
                  Update on this: I adjusted the throttle cable so that the throttle plate was completely closed. We went to the lake Friday and the boat idled perfectly at 650 the entire time, every time. No surging during idle and no high idle at times.

                  Thank you for the help!

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