SAN 230 Surfing Setup Summary Thread

[charlesml3]

Not sure I agree with your statement on the NSS based on my experience. As for weight, I said a year ago (and in another lengthy thread that preceded this one) that I run just under 5,000 lbs total ballast (1000 lbs more than you) with custom sacks and Leadwake sacks. I think that’s the sweet spot. I’ll let the pic speak for itself.

It's not a matter of opinion. NSS=0 extends the surf tab fully. This creates the maximum deflection on the hull. It's crabbing the boat as much as it can. In this configuration the boat will produce the LONGEST wave it can. Not the steepest. The longest.

At NSS=5, the tab is barely deployed. It's enough to crab the boat to produce a surf wave but at this deflection it'll create a steep wave that's much shorter.

Video: https://vimeo.com/273241258

[Klipper]

Here’s a screen shot. Almost 5000 lbs of total ballast plus three passengers. NSS at 0 and speed is about 10.3

Can you let us know how you're set up for 5,000 lbs? What bags, where, etc... I would be interested in trying this out.

[markj]

Can you let us know how you're set up for 5,000 lbs? What bags, where, etc... I would be interested in trying this out.

I had custom sacks made for the front and rears. I have 900 lbs of leadwake bags spread pretty evenly in the cabin area under the seats as well. It totals to about 4800-4900 lbs. Everything is hidden. There’s a better description of mine on the original thread about how to set up a 230. I can’t remember the title of that thread though.

[zoltan mclovin]

Do you remember the dimensions of the rear bags?

[baconaz]

Thank you. Looks good!


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[markj]

Do you remember the dimensions of the rear bags?

Pretty sure they are 55”X26”X16” which calcs to about 825 lbs.

[markj]

After doing the math, I realized I’m full of crap. I don’t have almost 5000 lbs. Im not sure how that happened. BTW, don’t ask me how big a fish was that I caught 20 years ago either. Lol

Here’s a breakdown of what I’m actually running: Two custom rear sacks that add 850 total over the stock weight of 2100 lbs. I have a front sack under the seats which weighs 290 lbs and then 900 lbs of leadwake bags. That’s 4140 lbs and that’s what I always run now. Now that I think about it, back when I only had 500 lbs of lead, I used to put an 1100 lb fat sack in the cabin. That’s where I got the “almost 5000 lbs” from.

[bcippla]

I appreciate all of these posts about 230 NSS. I may purchase a 2012 SAN 230 TE in the next 2 days. Coming from an 08 Mastercraft X2. Are we saying on here I will not have a great surf wave "out of the box" with 2012 SAN 230 I may buy? It has NSS and upgraded factory pro ballast (6 bags).
Thanks in advance
Bill

[charlesml3]

Stock it's a decent wave, but not really all that big. Try it stock before you do anything else. It's a decent wake and may be all you need.

-Charles

[bcippla]

Charles, I sent you a pm. Thanks

[teamolson]

Hey 230-ers,

Recently got my 2019 230 dialed in and here's my setup:

Stock Ballast - 1,300
Wakemakers 650's - 1,300
Shot Ballast - 500
Total Ballast - 3,100

Starboard surf (which I think is a touch better/bigger)
Port 90%
Stbd 100%
Belly 100%
NSS 0
Hydro 1/2
Shot biased towards the rear lockers and under back seats
Speed 10.8-11 - anything over 11 the NSS needs to go UP

Port surf
Port 100% plus extra 100 lbs of lead
Stbd 90%
Belly 100%
NSS 1
Hydro 1/2
Speed 10.8

I am probably re-stating what's been said, but what the ****. Anyone who bought a '19 might find this helpful. Also, with a few more bodies in the boat, the wave gets stupid good. This wave is my wife driving and 3 kids - basically no human weight.

[PapaBear]

Looks great! This setup really seems to be a sweet spot for the 230 (I’m running exactly the same ballast as you). Thanks to all the contributors to this thread who’ve made it easy for all of us to set the boat up so well.


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[sbaird4000]

Great looking wave! I’ve never tried nss at 1 and the speed at 10.8. I’ll have to give it a try today. Cheers!


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[sbaird4000]

Tried nss at 1 and 10.8 mph today. My ballast was set up almost identical to yours. Everyone absolutely loved the wave! Thanks for the recommendation!


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[teamolson]

Cheers!