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  • H2O
    • Jul 2006
    • 247



    #106
    I cannot get Zero Off to respond to my email. As a matter of fact email addressed to ericf@zerogps.com is returned "not deliverable". Is the address above in Waterford, MI, where headunits are sent to be updated for the R2 antenna?

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    • scottb7
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 2198

      • Carson City, Nevada

      • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

      #107
      I decided to try upgrading zero off software and skip the antenna. I am very happy with the result.

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      • Nordicron
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Sep 2009
        • 557

        • Madison, WI


        #108
        Originally posted by scottb7 View Post
        I decided to try upgrading zero off software and skip the antenna. I am very happy with the result.
        Did you do this yourself? What software part number are you showing now? You need to go into diagnostics section to see. I have the E1886200A software and yes it was a big improvement when running stock ballast and 1579 prop but with added ballast and larger prop you will still have issues.

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        • scottb7
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 2198

          • Carson City, Nevada

          • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

          #109
          No i did not do the upgrade myself. I am on rev q now, i think. We ran full belly and about half full on 1100 sacs in the back and i was quite happy. No noticiable purpoising at all. You may be right. But i will take "big improvement" and save the $450

          https://www.zerogps.com/product/r2-antenna-and-harness

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          • Dave Rittiman
            • Apr 2013
            • 209

            • Nor Cal

            • 2009 Nautique 230 Sold 2016 Supra SE450

            #110
            Scott

            How do you upgrade the firmware on the Zero Off is there a USB connection on the back of the unit or something > ? Looking on the site it does allow you to download the software or at least request the latest S/W.
            I rather try and upgrade the firmware first and see if it fixes the problem. We went last weekend and had about 3000 pounds in the boat and were Surfing and it was really bad.

            How long did it take i would assume it pretty easy.


            Originally posted by scottb7 View Post
            No i did not do the upgrade myself. I am on rev q now, i think. We ran full belly and about half full on 1100 sacs in the back and i was quite happy. No noticiable purpoising at all. You may be right. But i will take "big improvement" and save the $450

            https://www.zerogps.com/product/r2-antenna-and-harness

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            • xrichard
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Aug 2008
              • 671

              • El Dorado Hills

              • 2023 G23

              #111
              Unless things have changed, you need a Diacomm cable to upgrade...or ZeroOff will do it (at least they used to) if you send the unit to them. Most dealers have the right cable--but some (like my old dealer) don't. If you have to buy it, I believe it's +/- $250. I had CC West upgrade mine several years ago and it only took a few minutes.
              Previous boats:
              2015 G23
              2008 SAN 210
              2002 XStar
              1995 Sport Nautique

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              • Paxdad
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Mar 2013
                • 775

                • Cumming, GA

                • 2008 210 SANTE

                #112
                Since I am a recent purchaser of an 08 210 SANTE how would I know what antenna I have?? Mine is mounted/ located just beyond the driver window on the flat area near the mooring cleat. When talking about surging I dont' think that it surges with stock ballast but I can tell that it seems like that there is a subtle miss in the engine exhaust tone. Please describe the surge that everyone is talking about.

                Thanks.
                2008 210 SANTE

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                • xrichard
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 671

                  • El Dorado Hills

                  • 2023 G23

                  #113
                  The old style antenna is a round puck...if yours is round like a hockey puck, it's original
                  Previous boats:
                  2015 G23
                  2008 SAN 210
                  2002 XStar
                  1995 Sport Nautique

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                  • Paxdad
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 775

                    • Cumming, GA

                    • 2008 210 SANTE

                    #114
                    I have attached a photo of my antenna. Do I need to have it replaced? Please describe the surging that is noticed.
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                    2008 210 SANTE

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                    • Nordicron
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 557

                      • Madison, WI


                      #115
                      Surging is the bow bouncing up and down when locked on at your set speed when zero off is engaged. This is called porpoising and can usually be controlled by moving the hydro gate forward or turning. Happens more in choppy rolly water and when u run more stern ballast than nose. And u have the old style antenna. Try the software update first a lot of people have success with that.

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                      • Paxdad
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 775

                        • Cumming, GA

                        • 2008 210 SANTE

                        #116
                        Thanks the quick reply is there a reference thread that you can point me to on how to check the software version I have as well as how to update if needed?
                        2008 210 SANTE

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                        • Nordicron
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 557

                          • Madison, WI


                          #117
                          Originally posted by Paxdad View Post
                          Thanks the quick reply is there a reference thread that you can point me to on how to check the software version I have as well as how to update if needed?
                          Easiest thing to do is go to the zero off website and download the PDF user manuel. It has directions on how to update and how to go into diagnostics screen to check software. But really it's not a user update process prob best left to a dealer.

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                          • Nordicron
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 557

                            • Madison, WI


                            #118
                            Hey all I've got my new antenna in and mounted but question on plugging into the harness? Attached is a pic that shows the grey box under my helm where my current zerooff is plugged in. See link from zerooff that doesn't mention grey box rather just leaving plugs hang. To me it would seem I pull the 2 plugs(triangle and rectangle plug on end) from the grey box and then plug those into the new harness and then plug the other 2 new plugs back into the grey box. Does that make sense?
                            http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/at...0&d=1268242853

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                            • H2O
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 247



                              #119
                              That is correct.

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                              • Nordicron
                                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 557

                                • Madison, WI


                                #120
                                Wow! Is all I got to say! So wish I would have gotten this antenna 2 yrs ago! Went out today loaded with over 2500lbs of ballast. Wasn't ideal conditions as quite a few rollers as well as a little breezy! Anyway I didn't have to use the hydro gate once! Boat was night and day different! I swear under today's conditions I would have been in and out of the hydro gate over and over again to steady the boat out. Not once today! Very happy with it!!! Was a little unnerving drilling the 1" hole in the boat but that went smooth. Very easy install.

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