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  • bchesley
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 1252

    • Tyler, Texas


    #1

    Royal Purple Oil and ZDDP

    I wanted to let you guys know about a conversation I had with a tech at Royal Purple synthetics. This is not a thread to discuss to use or not to use, but a thread to let you know that they have an oil that meets/exceeds the old flat tappet wear additive requirements. I asked him two questions, one about the boat, and the other about my wifes jeep commander. I have been running Royal Purple in my diesel truck for years and love it. Here is his response to me asking about their oil having ZDDP in it.


    Brad,

    The RP SAE Motor Oils have not had any of the ZDDP packages reduced like many other oils. We are continuing to make the robust antiwear package.

    The oils that are affected are oils that you would not typically run in your engine - those being the API SM rated oils in a 0W20, 5W20, 0W30, 5W30 or 10W30 grades. These grades are capped at 800 ppm of ZDDP.
    The RP 5W20 and RP 5W30 and RP 10W30 are still made to the more robust API SL and contain 1100 ppm of ZDDP - the same as the reduced diesel rated API CJ-4 oils.

    The oils that I would recommend for your Ski Nautique are the RP 10W40 or RP 15W40, which are still made to the more robust API CI-4+ / SL ratings meaning they have 1350 ppm of ZDDP.

    Be careful of assuming that wear is a linear direct relationship - not all packages are created equal - it would be like buying beer or wine based solely on alcohol content!

    For the ultimate - use our RP XPR 10W40 which has over 1500-1600 ppm of ZDDP.

    The kicker is - we could take all of the ZDDP out of our engine oils and still have 4 times the wear resistance of even the VR-1 oil due to our Synerlec additive technology.

    The M1 reference to Chrysler is a 'factory fill spec. Since RP does not go after price sensitive factory fills - pursuing higher performing oils, we have not applied with Chrysler for factory fill certification.
    The RP 5W20, being an API SL has 30% more antiwear than the M1 5W20 API SM rated oils.

    Cheers,

    David

    David Canitz
    Tech Services
    Royal Purple Inc.
    1 Royal Purple lane
    Porter, TX 77365
    281.354.8600
    713.725.7207 cell
    dcanitz@royalpurple.com
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  • bobchris
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    • Apr 2006
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    #2
    RE: Royal Purple Oil and ZDDP

    there are several other options that are far cheaper and have just as much ZDDP in them so if you want to spend three times more and get nothing more in return for that extra expensive knock yourself out.

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    • bchesley
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Feb 2006
      • 1252

      • Tyler, Texas


      #3
      RE: Royal Purple Oil and ZDDP

      You cant help your self can you 79. I just wanted to let people know what I found out about Royal Purple. Buy or not I don't care.
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      • SNMike
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        • May 2005
        • 1001

        • Florida


        #4
        Re: RE: Royal Purple Oil and ZDDP

        Originally posted by bchesley
        You cant help your self can you 79. I just wanted to let people know what I found out about Royal Purple. Buy or not I don't care.
        Brad, thanks for taking the time to share the info buddy. I've been using RP in my show cars and in my Nautiques for many many years.............and I have yet to knock myself out!


        bobchris, as for your posts'............... meh.....nevermind.

        Mike
        2007 Ski Nautique 196 Limited/ PP/ Mods
        Ludwig Classic Mapple Double Bass/ Zildjian Overhead

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        • bobchris
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          • Apr 2006
          • 359



          #5
          RE: Re: RE: Royal Purple Oil and ZDDP

          Facts are facts and you don't need to spend three times the price to get the same protection from something that's been on the market far longer than RP ever has, then lets not even talk about the issues and problems syn oils have on older engines and the leaks they create and the bearings they burn up.

          If you've got a brand new motor with small clearances go ahead and use the syn oils, If you have an older engine with large clearence values then you'll be getting that new engine soon with tight clearance after you replace that junk block cause by the syn oil you switched too.


          AGAIN YOUR RESEARCH IS PISS POOR

          if you want to point out a good oil choice then you should have directed people over to the CCF discussion on oil and what oils have ZDDP and what ones don't not some crap over priced crap you buy.

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          • bchesley
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Feb 2006
            • 1252

            • Tyler, Texas


            #6
            RE: Re: RE: Royal Purple Oil and ZDDP

            If you read in my first post what the intended purpose of the thread was it was not about A is better than B. I simply presented another option for oil with high levels of zinc in it. Unfortunately you have turned this into a pissing match on my research.

            What are you doing over here anyways? CCF is usually your bullying grounds.
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            • SNMike
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • May 2005
              • 1001

              • Florida


              #7
              Re: RE: Re: RE: Royal Purple Oil and ZDDP

              Originally posted by bobchris
              Facts are facts and you don't need to spend three times the price to get the same protection from something that's been on the market far longer than RP ever has, then lets not even talk about the issues and problems syn oils have on older engines and the leaks they create and the bearings they burn up.

              If you've got a brand new motor with small clearances go ahead and use the syn oils, If you have an older engine with large clearence values then you'll be getting that new engine soon with tight clearance after you replace that junk block cause by the syn oil you switched too.


              AGAIN YOUR RESEARCH IS PISS POOR

              if you want to point out a good oil choice then you should have directed people over to the CCF discussion on oil and what oils have ZDDP and what ones don't not some crap over priced crap you buy.
              Your "delivery" SUCKS man!! I suggest you tread lightly.

              Did it ever occur to you that it might be as simplistic as "brand loyalty" ....PERIOD.

              Besides, Brad's not a rep for RP, he was just putting it out there.

              It NEVER ceases to amaze me the way people talk smack on a forum.

              Mike
              2007 Ski Nautique 196 Limited/ PP/ Mods
              Ludwig Classic Mapple Double Bass/ Zildjian Overhead

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              • bobchris
                Banned
                • Apr 2006
                • 359



                #8
                RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Royal Purple Oil and ZDDP

                pointing out there are several other options that are much easier on the wallet much easier to find a store that sells it without ordering it, that have as much or more ZDDP than the option you presented.

                but forgot your GOD ALL KNOWING.... ******** you ask me

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                • bobchris
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2006
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                  #9
                  Re: RE: Royal Purple Oil and ZDDP

                  Originally posted by bchesley
                  You cant help your self can you 79. I just wanted to let people know what I found out about Royal Purple. Buy or not I don't care.
                  sorry you have to make your self feel important must be lacking in other areas

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                  • ffmedic74
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 835

                    • Lexington, KY


                    #10
                    RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Royal Purple Oil and ZDDP

                    Bobchris, which oil do you think is the best and why?

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                    • bchesley
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 1252

                      • Tyler, Texas


                      #11
                      RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Royal Purple Oil and ZDDP

                      79,

                      I am really just so rich it does not matter. I really buy it because it has the word royal in it. It makes me feel like royalty.

                      You crack me up dude! anyone who reads your post gets your MO!!!! Very similar to the Drive By Media............ You see a topic you might know a little about and then start chunking crap at it.
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                      • Hollywood
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                        • Sep 2003
                        • 1930

                        • WIIL


                        #12
                        RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Royal Purple Oil and ZDDP

                        Brad, thanks for posting the info. Whatever your choice of oils may be, it is nice to know.

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                        • NautiqueJeff
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                          • Mar 2002
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                          #13
                          RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Royal Purple Oil and ZDDP

                          Okay, locking this thread.

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