2005 sv211 team edition

[clubmyke]

took delivery today.... off to the shop for teflon coating and then the stereo..

[Eggie]

very nice....congrats!!!

[NautiqueJeff]

Looks great! Perfect match on the trailer.

[skinautique]

Real sharp looking boat clubmyke. Haven't seen one yet with that color combo but I really like it!

[FatBoy]

That boat looks great.

[Timber]

Looks great.
What kind of stereo are you going with?

[clubmyke]

stereo....good question...just got into trouble with the wife for going over the stereo budget.....

going with

eclipse 8353 balanced head unit
custom ir remote pod where clarion used to be ( will post pics when done)
3 jl 300/4 amps running bridged
1 jl 500/1
3 pairs image dynamic 6.5 chamelaon seperates set up coaxial
1 pair image dynamic idq 12's in 2.50 cu ft. ported box
3 streetwires 1 farad caps
0 gauge streetwires for +/-
14 gauge streetwires speaker cable in shotgun setup
ar ht131 interconnects.

i m breaking in the subs and tweeking the q for the best sound...ported boxes are ALOT differrent than sealed boxes....

should have it all installed in 2 weeks....i am getting the wires, amps, and headunit first week and speakers the second week.

[SGY]

Very nice. You made the right choice. What's a teflon coating?

[NautiqueJeff]

I have a teflon wax on my SAN. It makes cleaning it very easy. It hardly even gets a waterline. Is that what you're talking about?

[jeffsv211]

Awesome... I picked up my SV211 the same day.. ok, actually it arrived, I paid for it, and it stays at the marina in storage until spring! UGggghhh! I love your colors too, however, I went with the Red Hull and the Titanium stripe! Can't wait til next year, until then you guys on this site will just have to keep showing me more pics, and telling me how great it is to be a Nautique owner!!!!! I'm impressed already.. but then I've had a Stern Drive I/O for 15 years! What an upgrade!!!!!

[Rick]

So Mike When will I see you on San Vincente... Or are you going to put that beautiful boat in that awful bay??

[clubmyke]

Jeff...congrats on the new ride !!!

from what i understand, the teflon coating is the same thing that is used on a car and it allows for no waxing for 4-5 years and very easy cleanup...

Rick, we are going to keep it a fresh water boat only...we are heading out to san v tomorrow with ian for the maiden voyage..

[Gramps]

Mike, Congrats on the new ride and have fun on it's maiden voyage tomorrow. Say "hello" to Ian for me!!

Teflon coatings have been done on cars for years and is starting to be very popular on boats.

Tech Formula in San Diego gives you a 6 year warranty and a guarantee that you won't have to wax your boat during that time. If you really want to you can and it won't hurt the Teflon at all.

Wax fades 1% to 2% a day in the sun, Teflon stays on for up to 6 years without breaking down.

I had my boat done over a year ago and have never had a hard time cleaning it with simple soap and water, the water beads up and rolls right off just like it was freshly waxed with little or no water spots. I also had my trailer done so it makes for easy cleaning after trailering any long distances.

I also had my truck done, water just rolls right off it when it rains and washing it is much easier, just rinse and dry.

www.techformula.net

For those of you in San Diego it's worth the $300 - $400 to have it done, my boat looks brand new after 2 years of use.

If you can find a dealer in your local area that does Teflon coating it's well worth it.

[clubmyke]

thanks alot aki, i really appreciate your help !!!! also, will say hello to ian for you.

i will also take pics of the wake with the gate up and the gate down...

we will also be out on next friday also... (maybe early thursday am if my wife will let me !!!!)

mike

[Rick]

Was there this morning. No one around . I just did a calibration and check since I just completed the end of season serviceand replaced my gauges. We'll be out next Friday with my son and a friend from the UCSD Waterski team.

[clubmyke]

rick will look forwar to meeting you.... you have a great looking ski nautique...

btw, will san v be open thanksgiving or closed because it is a holiday ?

[TwinTip]

Not to change subjects but how long does it take to teflon coat a boat, assume this same size boat?

[clubmyke]

it takes just as long as waxing with buffers...alot depends on how many people are involved.

[Rick]

San V is closed Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years. You wouldn't want City Employees to have to work at $65.00/hr would you...

[clubmyke]

i would'nt mind if they didnt mind....but thats okay !!!

[jeffsv211]

Mike & Gramps,
thanks for the info on the Teflon, I have a 2002 Avalanche that I had the teflon coating done on and people think I am a clean freak, because it looks freshly cleaned and waxed.. the truth is, I can spray wash/soft water rinse it, and it looks like I spent hours on it! Glad to hear this is the same thing for boats, so I assume I can take it to the same place my truck was done at!
Keep this hints coming... I have a looooonnnnggg wait til I get to see my '05 SV211 again!

[clubmyke]

gramps (aka aki) was the one who suggested the teflon and the place to go....

the nautique dealer went with us on our first run today and he commented on the how well the water beaded off the hull..not to mention how easy the boat cleaned up.

thanks aki !!!!!

[TwinTip]

Clubmyke, what type of company specializes in doing teflon coating? Is this a car or boat dealer? I tried searching for teflon coatings and could not find much info on it.

Was this done while the boat was on the trailer or was the boat lifted to get every part of the hull?

[Gramps]

TwinTip, The place we had the Teflon Coating applied specializes in automobiles, they are just starting to get into doing boats via word of mouth. I have 2 friends that had theirs done and then got mine done. I liked it so much I have been telling others to do it.

They do it while it is on the trailer, they get as much of the hull as you want them to, I only had mine done to the second chine and up to the top of the gunnel the top part of the deck that faces the sun straight up.

We also had the trailer done, making road grime clean up really easy.

They will do the inside if you want for an additional cost.......I chose to not get it done and just wax the inside once in a while.

Mike, sorry for the thread hi-jack.........

Glad you liked the way the teflon coating turned out.

Gramps (Aki)

[TwinTip]

Thanks Gramps. I'll start looking for a place to have this done, the benefits of this product seem to justify the expense.

[wake_fun]

Super nice!! Congrats.

[Timber]

stereo....good question...just got into trouble with the wife for going over the stereo budget.....

going with

eclipse 8353 balanced head unit
custom ir remote pod where clarion used to be ( will post pics when done)
3 jl 300/4 amps running bridged
1 jl 500/1
3 pairs image dynamic 6.5 chamelaon seperates set up coaxial
1 pair image dynamic idq 12's in 2.50 cu ft. ported box
3 streetwires 1 farad caps
0 gauge streetwires for +/-
14 gauge streetwires speaker cable in shotgun setup
ar ht131 interconnects.

i m breaking in the subs and tweeking the q for the best sound...ported boxes are ALOT differrent than sealed boxes....

should have it all installed in 2 weeks....i am getting the wires, amps, and headunit first week and speakers the second week.

Where are you putting the 2 12's?
Did you consider running the new JL Audio 12W7's?

[SGY]

I gotta chime in on the Teflon coating. Several years ago I put a Teflon based wax on my 1988 2001. Later when I had some hull damage, I decided to have the whole thing wet sanded. Well, I get this call from the shop as they started the wet sanding. They want me to come out and look at the boat because it is not shinning up as one would expect. Nor is it matching with the new gel coat from the repairs. The first thing out of the detailer's mouth when I get there was whether or not I used a teflon based wax. When I showed him the bottle all he could do was shake his head and say never never use a teflon based product on a gel coat surface. He indicated that the teflon takes such a hard bite into the gelcoat that when it fades, and it will fade, you can't get the faded product out--even with wet sanding.

I don't know what this means in relation to the coating but the guy who gave me this info has been in biz for many many years and is considered one of the best fiberglass gel coat guys in the Rocky Mountains. Perhaps the teflon coating is different. I don't know but I thought I would throw in my two cents.

[clubmyke]

i did look and hear the jl's....

a friend who is salesman at a ultra highend home stereo shop (classe,cj,bat...ie $75k + systems) had 2 installed in his bmw and pulled them out a week later. they are a nice sub but need a huge amp, his jl j500/1 would'nt do it... he went back to his idq's. the jl's are very, very, inefficent. they were also a tad slow sounding in imo...

the idq's and the w7 is are two different subs... the w7 would be closer to the idmax... this type of design are designed for 1000 watts of clean class d power and a upgraded elcetrical system to perform...

the idqs are ultra efficent (91 db) and hit like a sledgehammer and have very high sound quality ( very unique in a car stereo sub....sound quality and loudness is a tradeoff...the idq is very musical and can go very loud and hit) also they are a steal at the price of $400 for a pair of 12's...the basket is pretty basic looking, but the one piece intergated surround is state of the art....also .85 for a sealed enclosure and 1.25 for ported is pretty good.

i have the ported box in my car right now ( breaking in the subs) and the ported box is pretty amazing....very efficent ( had to turn down my gain) and the sound quality is very close to my sealed box with the same subs....

i would really suggest hearing a system with image dynamics before you spend more money.... btw, the chameleon seperates are good..... they are not as good as my dynaudios in my car but just a musical and 1/2 the price ( keep in mind i am splitting hairs are this point)...

[Timber]

Mike,
Thank you for the reply. I have a few friends running the W7. They sound awesome , and your right they are running 1,500 watts to each one. I think I'm going to run 1 12w7 and see how it sounds. I was looking at the Kicker L7 also. Not sure what seperates I will be running.
Are you going to install an extra batteries?

[clubmyke]

i think that many watts needed to push a sub in mobile enviorment is really hard to do....it requires a high out altenator (150 amps minimum) and caps and batteries... imo if a sub needs over 500-750 watts of mono clean power somethng is amiss in the design.. the new high powered sub designs are great for home theatre where there isnt that much long term demand, but with music in a mobile enviorment, the gear doesnt last....i have tried it at great expense and $$$$ loss.. ...

i love jl amps, but the subs are too inefficent and they dont last.... dont get me wrong...jl does make a great sub, it all comes down to system design and preferences.

any sub below 87 db efficency,start looking at someting else because it will be very hard to drive and will take a toll on your amps and alternator.

.the image dynamics have a intergrated surround ( one piece ) and wont fall apart after 2 years.... thats what happens with kickers and jl's... the surround becomes detached and you are left with the sub coming apart....

i have been around high end home and car audio for 20 years and have done 6 car systems and have tried ALOT of highend subs ( old soundstream, a/d/s, jl, kicker, boston....it is really hard to do better than the image dynamic subs for sound quality and loudness and durability...once you hear and feel them, you will be sold...

the local nautique dealer and his help took a listen to my car system and is waiting with baited breath to hear the boat system...please keep in mind, it took me a year to "tune" my car... the bass is in the front cabin and there is no smear or transit delay...it is very cohesive and the imaging is on the dash and hood. i hoping for the boat to be the same, but even better since it is a "open" listening enviroment ( this requires ALOT of clean power)..

if you wanted to run a single sub then a jw7 or a image dynamic id max will do....but 2 idq 12's will be better than a single 12 of that design (2 x's the cone area).

as for batteries.... i have 2 optima blue top gel cells and perko switch....

the subs will go in the storage area... the only question is Sealed vs. Ported ( smaller box / less output though higher quality or bigger box more output/ less sound quality....

[Grant_West]

Congrats on the new boat. Lets see some photos of your new system.

[actiondcpd]

Sweet boat indeed. Love to see the stereo pictures as well.